[AJD] GP woth Bean axle??

Mon Dec 6 15:52:55 PST 2004

LOL. OK Paul. B might be easier to find than a beaner though.
Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??


> Charlie
> Give up on the B and go gor the beaner!!!!
> Paul O
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>
>
>>I will keep my eyes open for a 4 row for you. I didn't even know they made 
>>a 4 row. Dad had a 3 row cultivator and corn planter. The cultivator 
>>burned up in a barn fire caused by lightning. The corn planter was stored 
>>in another barn. He managed to use the 3 row planter by tying 1 of the 
>>rows up and using only the remaining 2. Ever try to cultivate with a 2 row 
>>cultivator when the corn was planted with a 3 row planter?
>> I do recall your article. Unfortunately I don't remember the details. 
>> Little senior moment problem. Another reason I am not locating a bean 
>> tractor is I have also been searching for a 37 B. (year of my birth)
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>
>>
>>> Charlie
>>> Bean tractors were manufactured from 1931 to 1935. If you recall the 
>>> article I wrote for Two-Cylinder a few years ago, I estimated there were 
>>> 120 built. There are more than 120 bean axles around because the bean 
>>> axle was furnished whenever someone ordered a repair axle.
>>>
>>> You need to widen your search for a bean tractor. I have talked to 
>>> people who grew up thinking all GP tractors had the wide front axle 
>>> because they never saw anything else. You need to look to the East where 
>>> edible beans were grown.
>>>
>>> I understand your frustration. I cannot find a four-row cultivator. In 
>>> fact, as far as I know, there is only one in existance. There should 
>>> have been as many cultivators built as there were bean tractors. Where 
>>> are they?
>>>
>>> Paul  O
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
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>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Funny, if most were shipped to Michigan how come I can't find one? I 
>>>> know your correct on that however. What years were bean tractors 
>>>> manufactured? I have been told that some standards were converted also. 
>>>> I am not sure but what my dad's was. Unfortunately I don't have that 
>>>> tractor. I sure wish I did but at the time he let it go I had no 
>>>> interest in it.
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
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>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> As far as I know, most if not all, bean tractors were shipped to 
>>>>> Michigan. Of course there could have been one or  more exceptions. 
>>>>> Also, in the last few years, everyone knows tractors have been shipped 
>>>>> to all points around the country. Unfortunately, we cannot learn 
>>>>> anything about bean tractors built prior to 1934 from the archives . 
>>>>> Records of bean options were not kept in 1931-2-3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul O
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chas. C." <jdgp1931 at chartermi.net>
>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>> Is it unusual for a bean tractor to end up in California? I thought 
>>>>>> that most were native to this part of the country.
>>>>>> John, congratulations on your find. Wish I could locate one.
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Paul O" <mrgp at fwi.com>
>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> The serial number on your GP is in the correct range for a bean 
>>>>>>> tractor. Most (not quite all) bean tractors had a swing seat. Also, 
>>>>>>> all bean tractors had a brace (shaped like an H, part AC855R) from 
>>>>>>> one chain case to the other. The horizontal part was located just 
>>>>>>> under the platform. The top of the vertical "legs" shows just above 
>>>>>>> the platform. The rear wheels were mounted for the widest possible 
>>>>>>> tread width. I would be interested in hearing from you as to what 
>>>>>>> you find. I am keeping a roster of all the bean tractors I hear 
>>>>>>> about. Please let me know the results if you have its' ship 
>>>>>>> destination researched. Thanks!
>>>>>>> Paul O
>>>>>>> P.S. I would like to know what those California lugs looked like.
>>>>>>> PO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere" 
>>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:39 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [AJD] GP woth Bean axle??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My 20 year old son, Matt, negotiated a deal for and
>>>>>>>> bought a GP on full steel with beautiful Schmeiser
>>>>>>>> (locally produced here in CA)lugs. Unfortunately, it
>>>>>>>> had not run since 1955 and someone removed the hood,
>>>>>>>> magneto, carb, radiator, and many of the parts above
>>>>>>>> the engine, then loosened the head. It had been out in
>>>>>>>> the weather that way for who knows how many years, so
>>>>>>>> the engine is probably in pretty rough shape. We
>>>>>>>> picked it up a few weeks ago. It was a tough one to
>>>>>>>> load as a thirty foot tall oak tree was starting to
>>>>>>>> grow aound one front wheel. After we cut down the
>>>>>>>> tree, we hooked up to the winch, but one brake was
>>>>>>>> rusted tight and one front wheel wouldn't turn. On top
>>>>>>>> of that I couldnt get any closer than about a hundred
>>>>>>>> yards away, so it was a long pull dragging it up and
>>>>>>>> onto the trailer with two wheels skidding along all
>>>>>>>> the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, it's been sitting here those few weeks both
>>>>>>>> outside and now inside the shop where Matt started to
>>>>>>>> do some investigating into its condition. I was out in
>>>>>>>> the shop looking for something else tonight when the
>>>>>>>> front axle caught my eye. It looked a lot wider than a
>>>>>>>> normal GP axle and the tie rod was behind the axle,
>>>>>>>> instead of in the front. Suddenly it dawned on me that
>>>>>>>> this must be a "bean" axle. It has casting # C1878R,
>>>>>>>> which as far as I can determine from the parts
>>>>>>>> catalog, must be that axle. Is there anything else I
>>>>>>>> should be looking for? It appears to have a standard
>>>>>>>> drawbar and is serial # 229508.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any information would be appreciated. Yes, I am proud
>>>>>>>> of him for finding it and buying it. And hoping he
>>>>>>>> might be following somewhat in the old man's
>>>>>>>> footsteps!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Boehm
>>>>>>>> Woodland, CA
>>>>>>>> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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