[AT] Pitman rivets?

[Larry D. Goss]

Thanks, George.  I probably will end up making the rivets.  I got a
quote from a source on the Internet this morning -- $25 for a box of 100
plus shipping.  I'll think about it.  When it's all said and done, the
only reason for insisting on riveting the pitman together is for the
authenticity of the restoration.  If it was just a mower that I was
going to put to work, I'd bolt it together and go about getting some
mowing done.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of George Willer
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] Pitman rivets?

Larry,

Many years ago we had a need for a lot of special rivets and we made
them.
It was a carefully controlled process using a stack of steel plates of
the
correct thickness with closely fitting holes to grind the blanks to
correct
length.  Then, a thinner stack was used as a holder with the correct
length
projecting.  The heads were formed using a .401 shank rivet set in an
air
chisel.  The finished rivets were easily punched out.  It wasn't nearly
as
complicated as it must sound.

It's often easier and faster to simply make the odd bit of hardware than
it
is to find it ready made.

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] Pitman rivets?


> My machinist friend made a similar suggestion last night, Steve.
He'll
> probably just heat the end of the rod with a rosebud and then head it
> with the punch that he's going to make for me.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:34 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Pitman rivets?
>
> Make them out of 3/8" rod if you cannot find any. Just heat it red and
> form the head shape. Then peen the other end.
> I've made a LOT of odd rivets that way. Comes in handy to have that
> small forge in the shop. If you don't have one you can build one REAL
> easy from a 15-16" STEEL car rim and an old computer blower and an
> iron/steel 4" T fitting and some misc. steel for legs and gratings.
>
> Steve Williams
> Near Cooperstown NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:54 PM
> Subject: [AT] Pitman rivets?
>
>
> >
> > Help!  I'm trying to restore a sickle bar mower for my 1947 Economy
> > tractor.  Economy Engineering (later to become Power King) bought
much
> > of the assembly from McCormick-Deering.  The bar and pitman are
> > essentially a Model 6 -- first made in 1922.  I'm in the process of
> > building a new pitman for it, but I need rivets -- 3/8" diameter
> button
> > head with a pre-installed length of 2-1/4 and 2-1/2 inches.
> >
> > Of course, nobody has them.  I checked McMaster-Carr and they don't
> list
> > any thing longer than 1".  I'm apparently going to have to rely on
> some
> > NOS rivets or somebody's leftovers in their shop, or (heaven forbid)
> > I'll have to bolt the straps to the pitman wood.  Does anyone have a
> few
> > or know a source for them?  I only need three of each.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
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