[AT] another new shop

[Almost-Running Deere]

Yest ther is a plastic vapor barrier under there as well, 18 mil comes to 
mind but I would have to check the specs


>From: Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net>
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>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] another new shop
>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:18:54 -0600
>
>Been a while since we made any cement on this farm but as I recall the
>standard practice was to scrape the topsoil off down to good solid clay.
>Which is only about 6 inches below the surface here. We used gravel base
>(pit run) on some but not all. On grain bins it was a good idea to add a
>moisture barrier, a sheet of heavy black plastic.
>Rocks were a big part of the mix. Mostly for the reason that it saved on
>cement but it also made good concrete. Cracked floors are not too common
>here. In later years we got into using rebar re-inforcement. Before that it
>was any odd scraps of iron, page wire, etc. added for strength.
>Apparently it was a common practice to add old iron to concrete. On
>demolishing old buildings it was not unusual to find the occasional plough
>share or other odd bits of metal.
>
>Ralph in Sask.
>http://lgoff.sasktelwebsite.net/
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>From: Almost-Running Deere <deereman1000 at hotmail.com>
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>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:34 AM
>Subject: Re: [AT] another new shop
>
>
> > My base was 3/4 inch crushed stone, I am in a fairly swampy area and  
>when
> > the pad was made I placec 6 inch perforated black plastic on the upgrade
> > side, placed in 3/4 clean crushed stone.  This wraps around 3/4 of the 
>pad
> > in a trench and opens into a ditch on the downgrade side, This will run
> > pretty good after big rains like we have had recently, no ponding and 
>the
> > floor moiture apersa related to excessive humitidy and temperatire 
>swings.
> > Dana SE PA
> >
> >
> > >From: Cecil E Monson <cmonson at hvc.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
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> > >To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
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> > >Subject: Re: [AT] another new shop
> > >Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 15:14:42 -0400
> > >
> > > After reading all these posts on the subject, I think the problem
> > >I had here was an unstable soil condition where the shop is. There is 
>no
> > >way I can think of to stop the hillside above us from draining down 
>thru
> > >this property and the shop building site on it's way to the creek below
>us.
> > >I think the soil was wet when the concrete floor was poured and even
>though
> > >it was compacted, it may not have been stable. Then too, the weather
>turned
> > >cold as the pour began. The redi-mix trucks that came had antifreeze
>added
> > >to the concrete to keep it from freezing. The pour was normal although 
>it
> > >looked a little wet to me compared to the mix my father taught me to 
>make
> > >years ago when we re-built all the buildings on the farm. I kept heat 
>in
> > >the
> > >building for a week after the pour and double sealed the concrete
>according
> > >to the directions on the 5 gallon pail of sealant I bought. The weather
> > >warmed again and the pad did not freeze for at least 3 weeks and 
>possibly
> > >more as the concrete seemed to produce more and more heat as it cured. 
>We
> > >didn't use rebar for strength - just as pegs to keep the steel wire up
>off
> > >the ground and centered in the slab. I did not order mix with fibers
>added
> > >but will do this the next time I pour concrete. We don't have sand
> > >available
> > >here - at least I have never been able to find a real gravel pit where 
>I
> > >can
> > >get it. My next best option then would be Item 4 crusher run which is
>what
> > >John Wilkens probably calls "dirty stone". It will compact about as 
>hard
>as
> > >anything that can be found.
> > >
> > > I keep hoping someone is an expert on stand alone exterior wood
> > >furnaces and certainly appreciate any comments on the shop or concrete
>work
> > >also.
> > >
> > >Cecil
> > >--
> > >The nicest thing about telling the truth is you never have to wonder
> > >what you said.
> > >
> > >Cecil E Monson
> > >Lucille Hand-Monson
> > >Mountainville, New York   Just a little east of the North Pole
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