[AT] Dodge diesel oil filter number

Brian LaPointe oldfarttractorfarm at comcast.net
Sat Apr 10 18:23:26 PDT 2004


Hi
I'm new at this. but from what i'm reading here about these filters you 
are talking about a full flow that when all the oil goes throw the 
filter. and the bypass filter only a small amount go throw as the oil 
is sent throw the engine. I just put a bypass filter on a 54 vet that 
have, it never had a filter. In the kit was a restrictor fitting that 
only had a pin hole in it and that is all it takes to keep the pressure 
up.

								Brian
As far as the Wix filters go I have been selling them for 30 plus years 
and the only time there was a problem was from to high pressure. and I 
sold them to a lot of construction co.
On Apr 10, 2004, at 8:20 AM, charlie hill wrote:

> Thanks Cecil.
>
> I think what was being said over on another site was that Wix had 
> changed
> design for a while and was trying to use a pleated paper filter in 
> place of
> the rag filter.  I still am not sure I understand why that  would 
> matter but
> just wanted to be fair to the other side of the discussion.
>
> As for talking me out of using Wix filters.  That will take a lot of
> talking.  I don't use Wix exclusively.  I'm really not that picky about
> filters but when Wix is available that is what I use.
>
> BTW I have 2 new old stock genuine AC filters  in the Card board tube. 
>  It
> had been opened and 1 filter used when a friend of mine found it 
> somewhere.
> He sold his AC tractors and gave the filters to me.  I don't intend to 
> use
> them unless I just put one on the tractor for show some time.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cecil E Monson" <cmonson at hvc.rr.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Dodge diesel oil filter number
>
>
>>> Rob,  I wasn't trying to say you were wrong.  Just trying to 
>>> understand
> what
>>> you were saying.  I'm still not sure I understand how this works.  
>>> I'm
> going
>>> to have to look at the oil piping a bit more I guess.  BTW I only use
> the
>>> real rag stuffed filters anyway.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> Charlie, I agree with you on these filters. I don't see one bit of
>> difference in them no matter what anyone says. My oil pressure on the 
>> AC B
>> tractors, the CA and the D-12 are the same as always. I've had the 
>> valve
>> covers off on quite a few AC tractors also and think all this talk 
>> about
>> poor filters is just that - a bunch of talk.
>>
>> For the record, and I have both right here with me as I just went
>> out to the shop and took both off the shelf, the Wix filter number is
> 51101
>> for the filter that fits the AC B tractor and the NAPA Gold number is
> 1101.
>> They are both the same filter, both are rag stuffed and both have the
>> popsickle stick in the center that it is a good idea to remove before
>> putting the filter on the tractor. ;-) I don't see one bit of 
>> difference
>> between either of these and the old C-159 filter I used to get from  
>> both
>> Central Tractor and Allis dealers and was made by Fram.
>>
>> The B, C and CA tractors fed oil to the rocker arm assembly by
>> splitting the feed to the filter before it reached the filter from the
>> oil pump. I always thought the Allis engines got an over abundance of 
>> oil
>> anyhow to the rocker arms assembly and didn't really need but a 
>> fraction
>> of that. When I start to hear stories of people who actually have a
> problem
>> with lack of oil to the rocker arm assembly that can be proven to 
>> come as
>> a result of poor filter design I will believe it but not until then.
>>
>> Cecil
>> -- 
>> The nicest thing about telling the truth is you never have to wonder
>> what you said.
>>
>> Cecil E Monson
>> Lucille Hand-Monson
>> Mountainville, New York   Just a little east of the North Pole
>>
>> Allis Chalmers tractors and equipment
>>
>> Free advice
>>
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