[AT] another Allis Chalmers question

Tue Apr 6 14:05:30 PDT 2004

	Charlie, the D-14 is a good tractor to own and use but when you are
talking price, $2500 is right at the top. Not over but as high as they should
go for. However, if it is in good shape now with no problems and you can use
it the way you are hoping, I think if it were me, I would grudgingly go ahead
and pay it before it gets away. There is one big advantage to it in your favor
and that is you know the tractor from one end to the other as you have done a
lot of the work on it. You also know D-14s and know what they are.

	If it were me, I would very likely stop to see my friend and see if
I couldn't work the subject around to the price without getting upset and let
him know you remember doing a lot of work on it and helping him with it and
you wonder if he wouldn't take less from a friend like you. Sometimes when I
am in a good mood, I will knock off quite a bit for a friend. You never know.

	If you don't want to do that, and you think you can use it as is, I,
personally, would pay it and now worry about it. Sometimes you have to do it.
Remember he needs the money, or says he does, to buy the 135.

	FWIW, my D-14 was built to use as a roadside mowing tractor. It has
one of those heavy wide fronts too. I wonder if it isn't like yours.

Cecil

charlie hill wrote:
> Cecil,  I want your opinion on something.  I have one D-14 that is in
> running condition and I use it for mowing, bushhogging, etc.  It is a wide
> front 3pt hitch.  I have a narrow front snap couple model with a cracked
> block and a few missing, minor parts,  I have single front wheel that is in
> rough shape due to sitting in a field for 15 years.  The engine is stuck (
> left out with no hood and the spark plugs out) but I know the history of the
> tractor and it was used very little so things like gears and shafts etc are
> in good shape.  None of mine have power steering.
> 
> Now my question.  I have a friend who has a D-14 snap coupler with power
> steering and a heavy duty front axle that, if it is in fact an AC axle, is
> NOT for a D-14 or 15 that I have ever seen.  His tractor is in good shape
> (better than the one I use) but he doesn't like it.  He wants a MF 135 and
> he wants to sell the D-14.  He told me if he could get $2500 for it he would
> sell it and buy a 135 he found for $5500.  I know he only paid $1400 for the
> D-14.  I hauled it home for him and have done the majority of maintenace and
> minor repairs on it for him at no charge.  However, he is not offering to do
> me any favors on it.
> 
> I would really like to have the power steering unit (even though it has a
> bad seal and leaks the fluid out)  It has good tires all around and a new
> manifold.
> 
> I think that $2500 is too much for it but considering what I will have to
> pay in parts to fix all of mine I am thinking it might be worth buying if I
> can get it for  around 2k.
> 
> I want to keep the drive train of the single front wheel model I have in one
> unit if I can because it is rare (only 54 made with single front wheel)  I
> figure I can use parts engine parts  and miscellaneous parts from the
> cracked block narrow front to make the single front wheel whole,  combine
> the best parts of my friends and my working tractor to make one really good
> working tractor and have enough parts left over to build a narrow front
> tractor and have the heavy duty axle left over.
> 
> If you could follow through all of that what do you think?  Should I buy it
> from him at that high price or just let it go?
> 
> Add into your thought process that I have not had the time or inclination to
> do anything other than bench engineer to any of them in a couple of years.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cecil E Monson" <cmonson at hvc.rr.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 11:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] another Allis Chalmers question
> 
> 
> 
>>>Hi Cecil,  I don't remember the size.  All I know is what Valu-bilt
> 
> shows in
> 
>>>the catalog.     It might be that your manifold has been replaced with
> 
> one
> 
>>>for a Series I or II tractor and there was a size change on the series
> 
> III
> 
>>>Charlie
>>
>>
>>I asked the Parts Dept at Sandy Lake Implement about the difference
>>in sizes. I was told that the 1 3/8" dimension they give is the inside
>>dimension, not the outside, so I ordered one. I am sure it will be 1 1/2"
>>outside. I thought about a change in manifolds too, Charlie. I hate to
> 
> have
> 
>>to send things back.
>>
>>Cecil
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>>Cecil E Monson
>>Lucille Hand-Monson
>>Mountainville, New York   Just a little east of the North Pole
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Lucille Hand-Monson
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