[AT] Names that have become generic

[charlie hill]

Brian,  one of my engineering school professors would have said that you are
one of those wierd 50deg. guys.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian VanDragt" <bvandragt at intraworldcom.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic


> Yes, I knew I was handicapped in this thread being an ME.  :-)  I agree
> maybe the two terms were regional, then the earliest manufacturer of
> ignition systems at one point called them condensers and it stuck.
> Reguarding some earlier posts on condensation, I learned that liquid
> electricity does come from a condenser in a still, and it's called white
> lightnin'.
>
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
>
>
> > Brian:
> >
> > No wonder, a ME would never understand!  :-) I suspect the term
> "condenser"
> > got coined in the early days of automobile development.
> >
> > It probably just stuck in that industry.  Here is an interesting web
site
> > defining the meaning of condenser"
> >
> > http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/condenser
> >
> > I suppose there is a chance that the Physics people called them
> "condensers"
> > and the electrical people called them "Capacitors"
> >
> >
> > Here is an interesting tidbit:
> >
> > Condensers vs. Capacitors
> > The name "capacitor" was given in the US due to its capacity for
charging
> > electricity. When capacitors were introduced to Japan, the English word
> > "capacitor" was translated as "chikudenki," which means a component that
> can
> > condense and store electricity. Later, people in Japan thought it was
> called
> > condenser in the US when they retranslated it into English. That is the
> > reason the electric component called capacitor in the US is still called
> > condenser in Japan.
> > Moreover, in another theory it used to be called the "condenser" in the
> > world, but recently there is also an opinion of having came to be called
> > "capacitor".
> >
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> >
> > CRS = Having a Photographic Memory but a shortage of unused film.
> >
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> >
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Brian
VanDragt
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:27 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic
> >
> > In that case, I guess my original question still stands.  Why is a
> capacitor
> > used in an ignition system called a condenser?  I thought maybe there
was
> > some difference between the two.  I guess it doesn't matter.  I'm a ME
> > anyway.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:51 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
> >
> >
> > > Brian:
> > >
> > > I don't recall "ALL" capacitors being called "Condensers" and I was
> > trained
> > > as a EE in the late 50's.  My recollection is the term "condensers"
was
> > and
> > > is only used in the automotive/tractor environment.
> > >
> > > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > >
> > > CRS = Having a Photographic Memory but a shortage of unused film.
> > >
> > > www.deerelegacy.com
> > >
> > > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Brian
> VanDragt
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:34 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic
> > >
> > > Larry,
> > > You're right, I wasn't born until after the early 70's.  I had no idea
> > that
> > > all capacitors used to be called condensers.  Why would they change a
> > > perfectly good name for something to something else?  Now my original
> > > question has been answered and I have learned something.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry D. Goss"
> > >
> > >
> > > > The problem is some of you guys are just too danged young.  You
think
>
> > > >that because you learned a particular name for a device when you were
> in
> > > >school it must have always been named that.
> > >
> > > > I only have to go back to the early 70's to find literature that
> > > > officially calls those things "condensers."  And THAT happens to be
on
> > > > some tractor literature.
> > >
> > > > Larry
> > >
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