[AT] Names that have become generic

[Brian VanDragt]

Yes, I knew I was handicapped in this thread being an ME.  :-)  I agree
maybe the two terms were regional, then the earliest manufacturer of
ignition systems at one point called them condensers and it stuck.
Reguarding some earlier posts on condensation, I learned that liquid
electricity does come from a condenser in a still, and it's called white
lightnin'.

Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic


> Brian:
>
> No wonder, a ME would never understand!  :-) I suspect the term
"condenser"
> got coined in the early days of automobile development.
>
> It probably just stuck in that industry.  Here is an interesting web site
> defining the meaning of condenser"
>
> http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/condenser
>
> I suppose there is a chance that the Physics people called them
"condensers"
> and the electrical people called them "Capacitors"
>
>
> Here is an interesting tidbit:
>
> Condensers vs. Capacitors
> The name "capacitor" was given in the US due to its capacity for charging
> electricity. When capacitors were introduced to Japan, the English word
> "capacitor" was translated as "chikudenki," which means a component that
can
> condense and store electricity. Later, people in Japan thought it was
called
> condenser in the US when they retranslated it into English. That is the
> reason the electric component called capacitor in the US is still called
> condenser in Japan.
> Moreover, in another theory it used to be called the "condenser" in the
> world, but recently there is also an opinion of having came to be called
> "capacitor".
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> CRS = Having a Photographic Memory but a shortage of unused film.
>
> www.deerelegacy.com
>
> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Brian VanDragt
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:27 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic
>
> In that case, I guess my original question still stands.  Why is a
capacitor
> used in an ignition system called a condenser?  I thought maybe there was
> some difference between the two.  I guess it doesn't matter.  I'm a ME
> anyway.
>
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:51 PM
> Subject: RE: [AT] Names that have become generic
>
>
> > Brian:
> >
> > I don't recall "ALL" capacitors being called "Condensers" and I was
> trained
> > as a EE in the late 50's.  My recollection is the term "condensers" was
> and
> > is only used in the automotive/tractor environment.
> >
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> >
> > CRS = Having a Photographic Memory but a shortage of unused film.
> >
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> >
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Brian
VanDragt
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:34 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Names that have become generic
> >
> > Larry,
> > You're right, I wasn't born until after the early 70's.  I had no idea
> that
> > all capacitors used to be called condensers.  Why would they change a
> > perfectly good name for something to something else?  Now my original
> > question has been answered and I have learned something.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry D. Goss"
> >
> >
> > > The problem is some of you guys are just too danged young.  You think

> > >that because you learned a particular name for a device when you were
in
> > >school it must have always been named that.
> >
> > > I only have to go back to the early 70's to find literature that
> > > officially calls those things "condensers."  And THAT happens to be on
> > > some tractor literature.
> >
> > > Larry
> >
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