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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2022 10:02 PM, Spencer Yost
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks John.   It was tricky to find it.  
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          <div>The Allis is going down with a fight.  As you may
            remember, this tractor had an all fuel manifold. In addition
            that manifold was in absolutely horrible shape. It’s the
            worst manifold I’ve ever seen I’m pretty sure.  Was glad the
            seller had a new repo gas  manifold that came with the
            tractor.</div>
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              background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">he manifold studs
              that I was so very careful to extract and clean up turn
              out not to be long enough(4 of them anyways) for the new
              gas manifold that came with the tractor.  So I had to buy
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                rgb(255, 255, 255);">Finding studs that weren’t a $50
                kit from an eBay seller actually turned out to be a lot
                harder than I thought. I eventually found some but if
                you ever run across some 3/8–16 studs in the 3 to 5 inch
                length grab them and keep them because one day soon they
                will be extinct.</span></font></div>
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              <blockquote type="cite">On Sep 18, 2022, at 8:55 AM, John
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              <div dir="ltr"><span>Good find!! I've ran into internal
                  wiring bad on those as well as the insulators  for
                  models like you have with a kill switch through the
                  side. Fortunately we have a machine to test them on so
                  I can "run" the magneto without the cap and look to
                  see if any internal sparking going on. Even then it
                  can drive you nuts. Sometimes you can unhook the coil
                  and condenser and just play around with a meter
                  looking for continuity, but if its not grounded and
                  just "leaking or jumping an arc, you'll never find it.
                  FYI if you are having to bench test, I normally put a
                  small adjustable wrench on the drive lug, turning mags
                  by hand gets old real quick!!</span><br>
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                <span>John Hall</span><br>
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                <span>On 9/17/2022 10:58 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:</span><br>
                <blockquote type="cite"><span>Just a quick update. If
                    you remember, I couldn’t get a spark from magneto at
                    a spark plug terminal. I was getting a great spark
                    at the coil so it wasn’t the points or the coil.</span><br>
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                    my persistence easily.  The problem did turn out to
                    be in the inner base. Thanks to Brice’s patient
                    consulting and many different tests I ultimately
                    found that I could create a spark at a test rod
                    placed through the base to the coil when  the base
                    was in place but not tightened down.  But if I
                    tightened the base down the spark would be very weak
                    and intermittent.  Started looking all around and
                    eventually found this. It’s a crack in the kill
                    switch wire Apparently the base would push the wire
                    close enough to ground to eat or share  the spark
                    (leaving my test spark weak and intermittent) when
                    tightened but not when the base was simply “in
                    place”.  Leaving the kill switch wire disconnected
                    and tucked out of the way the magneto worked great.</span><br>
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                    never visible. It was on the bottom of the wire.
                     When I disconnected it from the points post and
                    lifted it up I was able to see it. The act of
                    lifting it up widened it quite a bit. The crack was
                    not originally this gaping canyon you see here.
                     Insulation had completely fossilized.</span><br>
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                    long it took me to figure this out, let me just say
                    that I actually sprained a finger from tripping the
                    impulse so much.  (-:</span><br>
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                      money pit about anywhere in NC. If it weren't for
                      collectors, you couldn't give an old small Deere
                      away. The IH offset models still seem to be
                      holding fairly strong prices if they are in decent
                      shape with fast hitch due to so many still being
                      used by gardeners.</span><br>
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                      pull wagons with. Fires up instantly in any
                      weather. Doesn't use oil or leak antifreeze. Looks
                      horrible, tires are rough. I bet I couldn't get
                      $800 for it. Now if it were an Farmall H or M,
                      probably worth 1/2 again more.</span><br>
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                      1960 tractors are to the point it costs way more
                      to keep them in great shape than they will ever
                      sell for. I've got 2 Super A's that are needing
                      tires. I use the tractors so I won't hesitate to
                      replace the tires when needed as I don't really
                      care what the tractors would sell for.</span><br>
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                        experience and my thumb I feel pretty confident
                        it should at least pop off. Once I get it
                        popping off I’ll do the leak down test.</span><br>
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                        what I’m gonna do with this tractor.  This is
                        Farmall/IH country. And like the rest of the US,
                        tractors this old just aren’t generating much
                        interest.  So based on these two facts I’m not
                        sure I can even find anyone locally that’s
                        interested in doing the final cleaning, gasket
                        replacement and cosmetic restoration.  And like
                        the dog analogy, I’m not sure if I’ll find a
                        better home for it or I’ll just keep it as a
                        companion for joy rides.</span><br>
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                        jealous (-:</span><br>
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                          say the heck with it and replace all the usual
                          suspects that cause trouble. Standard Magneto
                          is still probably the best and cheapest source
                          of parts.</span><br>
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                          started using is a leak down tester, got mine
                          from Harbor Freight.  I will say you gotta
                          watch the starting crank when using it, best
                          to have 2 people I've found.</span><br>
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                            quiet. I thought life would get less busy as
                            I got older but it hasn’t really turned out
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                            score a new (to me) tractor. It’s an Allis
                            Chalmers ‘C’; 1947.  I didn’t really intend
                            to get it, but it was sort of like picking
                            up a rescue dog just because you couldn’t
                            stand to see it put down..  Belonged to an
                            old man who bought it because a ‘C’ was the
                            tractor he learned to drive on 75 years ago.
                             He just never had the energy, health, time
                            to work on it.  He had done some work and
                            had pretty much disassembled it. Because of
                            its state and condition he just really never
                            had any active buyers. It looked destined
                            for an estate sale where the junk man picked
                            it up for pennies.</span><br>
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                            lots of new parts (gauges, manifolds,
                            decals, fenders, etc) and had done a pretty
                            decent job restoring the gas tank. Right now
                            the magneto is not making any spark but with
                            the help of Brice Adams I’ve narrowed it
                            down to something in the rotor cap or the
                            inner base simply eating the spark. I get a
                            nice blue spark jumping directly to the coil
                            button so I feel confident that a tuneup for
                            magneto will bring it to life.</span><br>
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                            managed to pull the manifold studs without
                            breaking a single one. I even got the nuts
                            off. So after soaking in parts cleaner
                            tonight I’ll chase all the threads, clean
                            and file mating surfaces, and get them back
                            in the engine. One of the new parts he had
                            was a brand new manifold and manifold
                            gasket.</span><br>
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                            compression test, but the engine does put
                            plenty of pressure on the thumb when turning
                            it by hand so it should start at least.
                              The old manifold was an all-fuel manifold.
                            It looked original based on it’s nearly
                            completely disintegrated condition. Engine
                            serial number does have a G suffix(think
                            that means gas engine) so maybe it got a gas
                            engine  swap sometime in its history and
                            they simply reused the all-fuel manifold? No
                            idea. I just want the engine to pop before I
                            route fuel lines and worry about power,
                            performance, and idle smoothness.</span><br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my
                            iPhone</span><br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite"><span>AT mailing list</span><br>
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