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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m sorry if I am repeating others info. I have been tied up the last few days with our Tractor Show here in Apache Junction this past weekend. I just want to make sure everyone was aware that when you send money using the “Friends and Family” procedure a large amount of the protections are lost . I don’t have time to go into the details but go to the Paypal site and make sure you understand what protections for the transaction are lost when using the ‘’Friends and Family” procedure. Yes there are no fees for either the seller of the buyer but it doesn’t come free/<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Apache Junction, AZ<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Howard Pletcher<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 13, 2022 2:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Off topic: Ukraine<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>After you enter the amount to send and click continue, the following screen comes up:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><img width=364 height=472 style='width:3.7916in;height:4.9166in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image008.jpg@01D83798.9EAEEB90"></span><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>But notice the fine print--only in the US.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>But paypal knows Mattias is not in the US and instead gives a currency conversion screen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Howard<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 5:31 PM Spencer Yost <<a href="mailto:spencer@rdfarms.com">spencer@rdfarms.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good question and I don’t know the answer. Maybe somebody that uses PayPal a lot more than me can answer as to whether or not PayPal gives you the ability to identify the receiver as a friend. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And Charlie made an excellent point: the email address that we have been using, <a href="mailto:davidbrown950@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidbrown950@gmail.com</a>, is a bit confusing. His name is not David Brown obviously but for those of you who are not familiar with them, David Brown is a brand of tractors and 950 was a model. I’ve always assumed Mattias owned or did own a David Brown 950.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/4/1/411-david-brown-950.html" target="_blank">https://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/4/1/411-david-brown-950.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Spencer<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Brad Loomis <<a href="mailto:brad.loomis@gmail.com" target="_blank">brad.loomis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Spencer,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>It's been a while since I've done a personal money give, but don't you want to "send as a friend", to avoid fees? I don't see that on your screen shot.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brad<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 10:53 AM Spencer Yost <<a href="mailto:spencer@rdfarms.com" target="_blank">spencer@rdfarms.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sorry. After rereading your message I realized I should’ve included specific instructions. Here they are. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>After logging into PayPal and getting to your account overview, click send.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It’ll ask for the recipients email address. key in that address I mentioned<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Key in the amount you want to send. Here’s the only tricky part. It may default to Euros so be sure to select SEK (which is the abbreviation for Swedish krona)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Next, select your funding source.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Lastley you’ll get a confirmation screen asking you to review the information. Click send payment now and you are done!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=573 height=282 style='width:5.9687in;height:2.9375in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D83798.9B7607B0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=548 height=250 style='width:5.7083in;height:2.6041in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image004.jpg@01D83798.9B7607B0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=482 height=491 style='width:5.0208in;height:5.1145in' id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image005.jpg@01D83798.9B7607B0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=504 height=352 style='width:5.25in;height:3.6666in' id="Picture_x0020_5" src="cid:image006.jpg@01D83798.9B7607B0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=335 height=739 style='width:3.4895in;height:7.6979in' id="Picture_x0020_6" src="cid:image007.jpg@01D83798.9B7607B0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> Can someone explain to me how to send money to his account? I'm not very savvy with PayPal.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Mike M <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 3/13/2022 1:01 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I know we’ve all seen the news, and the horrible pictures that come along with it. Regardless of your politics I think all of us can agree on what’s happening in Ukraine is clearly a humanitarian crisis. Central European countries are overrun with refugees that need humanitarian assistance. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’m happy to report to one of our long-time members has stepped up to help. Mattias Kessén(Sweden) is involved in helping acclimate some Ukrainian refugees to his area in Sweden. Here a quote from him in some emails we have been exchanging:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;background:white'>“I will leave early tomorrow first to my son's high school for their mini vans and then to Nynäshamn a port some 150 miles away for 70 refugees. The headmaster offered their vehicles this morning it's fantastic to see so many people working together”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;background:white'>Final settlement and logistics are not finalized but it appears Mattiias will be - more likely than not - hosting a family. After much cajoling and begging on my part I finally convinced him to let the list chip in a few bucks towards his own and his town’s and school’s sacrifice to take care of these folks and offset a few expenses.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;background:white'>And I did this for one reason. It’s so hard for us in the US to know who to support with our financial resources in this war. There’s so many aid organizations and go fund me pages and what not. Also, I know some folks have trouble with some of the foreign payment systems. But this is something we can do. I’m not sure that the financial need is all that great in this particular situation but every dollar is a vote of confidence and support. I think that’s probably the greatest gift: That the folks taking care of business in Sweden know we understand their sacrifice(it’s important to note that Kyiv is closer to Mattias than his moose hunting grounds).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;background:white'>If you want to help Mattias and his town, simply send a small gift to his PayPal address:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:davidbrown950@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidbrown950@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve already sent a small donation via PayPal and I’ve confirmed that the money safely reached them quickly. He’ll make sure that the funds are used responsibly for offsetting expenses for the folks and institutions hosting and helping these families.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Spencer<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AT mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id="gmail-m_-1637641696074631467gmail-m_-1596163690743214379DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4791in;height:.302in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avast.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>