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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am a frequent visitor to a couple of chainsaw forums, and there is much discussion regarding the aftermarket repair parts from overseas – China specifically.
Generally, they are hit or miss in terms of reliability and longevity. I admit to having used a Chinese piston on a small Stihl for my brother-in-law and it’s still running as far as I know. These parts are very attractive in terms of price as compared to
OEM, but if I cared about the piece of equipment I was fixing and were to depend on it, I don’t think I would use anything but OEM for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike M<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 04, 2021 12:26 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I agree Steve, I need the blower know, even if a piston was and cylinder were available, it would take forever to get one. Most things made today with a few exceptions are throw away. How'd you like to be a
TV repairman these days? :)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/4/2021 7:00 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If by "machinist" you're thinking of boring the cylinder and installing oversize piston, that's not an option. The plating is the show-stopper. I'm shocked by Carl's estimate of $35 for piston kit and cylinder... I can take exactly one
guess what the country of origin is, but still, with all the middlemen and shipping, we're talking manufacturing costs in the range of just a few dollars. Good luck, and whatever you decide, I hope it is available.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Steve, cylinder is hard plated and is scored on the exhaust side. Looks like the engine is toast. It took me me forever to tear it down. Looks like a new blower is in my future. It would cost me more to have
a machinist repair it than to replace it.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/3/2021 7:19 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am still curious about the cylinder. Still assuming it has no liner, just hard plating. If all that's true... how's it look?!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Brian and Carl, yes when it dies it will still pull over easily but it will not start. At this point, I've fully torn it down, and the piston is really messed up. Looks like a time for a new one. I have about
2 acres to blow clean, so no 5 minutes Brian LOL.<br>
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Mike M<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When cold, the cylinder is smaller in diameter, so you get enough compression to start with a worn ring. As it warms up you start to lose compression as the cylinder expands to the point where the worn ring no longer provides enough sealing
and it stalls. Now, you may say that the worn ring is also expanding against the cylinder wall, and it does, but not as much as it should. It’s also expanding on its internal surface, so it’s creating a gap at the piston groove, allowing the piston to essentially
flop around. That’s what allows the piston to hit the cylinder wall once it’s not being kept centered in the cylinder. You can pull on the cord and feel what you think is compression, but it’s mostly resistance from all the other moving pieces.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well if you can get your leaves blown in 5 minutes, you don't have to do anything to it, but you know at least the piston is scored and you can't replace it without taking everything else apart. When it quits can you turn it over with the
rope or is it stuck? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [AT] Backpack leaf blower
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Brian it will run, but only for 5 minutes or so, then it's dead.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No matter what parts are damaged, it's not running now, and it's not going to fix itself. Just take it apart and see what you need to fix it.
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<p class="MsoNormal">One more thing that you might be able to do is push the piston down, pull the spark plug, and try to see the wall by looking through the spark plug hole.
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you pull the head, you’ll probably find that the cylinder wall is also scored. Try pushing the piston down and sticking a finger in to see if you can feel the wall. Maybe use something like a small dental mirror. If the wall is scored
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Here is the best picture I could get after pulling the muffler. Looks like the piston is toast. Any thoughts?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">So I pulled apart my leaf blower today, and looked at the exhaust port, as was suggested. Heavy scoring on the piston. So you were right, she ran it with straight fuel.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So my lovely wife was out blowing leaves the other day with my backpack<br>
blower, and it ran out of fuel. She mistakenly filled it with straight<br>
lawnmower gas, and after a bit it started to stumble and then quit. She<br>
came in to tell me about it and ask what the problem was. When I looked<br>
at the tank I noticed there was no blue tint in the gas, and I asked her<br>
what can she filled it from, and she pointed to the gas container I use<br>
for my zero turn. I told her that was straight gas, and she needed to<br>
use the 2 cycle mix, that is in another red 5 gallon can, honest<br>
mistake. She claims I told her to use that fuel, when I know I did not. <br>
I used it today and it will run for about 5 minutes and then sputter out<br>
and die, like it's running out of gas. It will restart, but then the<br>
same scenario starts all over again. Is their any chance of saving this<br>
engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas ratio? Thanks in advance.<br>
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