<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    It's funny you mention that Spencer, we just did that today.
    Lawnmower gas, string trimmer gas, and my special gas for my stuff.
    If it had been my new Stihl MS 261 I would not have been pleased.
    Stuff happens.<br>
    <br>
    Mike M<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/2021 8:19 PM, Spencer Yost
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:856AA7CC-8C8E-4FDF-A387-154704D702E4@rdfarms.com">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div>If you ever figure out a way to prevent other people from
        ruining your engines, please let me know.  Engine one was
        destroyed by a coworker who had a lot of storm damage and needed
        a chainsaw quick. I lent him my chainsaw. I gave him my oil gas
        mixture, and specifically left additional oil and told him
        explicitly if he needs more fuel, to mix this with 1 gallon
        fuel. Did not do that.  $150 for new engine innards.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Farmhand, grabbed waste fuel container:  You know the
        container where you put stale gas, kerosene, leftover
        crosshatching lubricant, you name it and the stuff you’re about
        to take to the recycling center. He put that in my string
        trimmer.  300 for a new string trimmer.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I write in black magic markers on all the fuel cans
        explicitly stating which equipment that gas/fuel is used for.
        Nobody reads.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>So if you ever figure it out let me know. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Spencer</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
        <div dir="ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type="cite">On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Moe Fretz
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tubetester@gmail.com"><tubetester@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>
              <div dir="auto">Even though the piston is scored and the
                rings somewhat sized in their grooves, they make enough
                compression, along with rich fuel mix from using the
                choke, the engine will fire and run momentarily. </div>
              <div dir="auto"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="auto">What brand and model is it?</div>
            </div>
            <div><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 27, 2021
                  at 16:43 Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
                  0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
                  <div> Thanks Moe,<br>
                     Why will the engine restart when hot with choke
                    after it dies? Any thoughts? I'll check the exhaust
                    port tomorrow.<br>
                    <br>
                    Thank-you,<br>
                    Mike M<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div>
                        <div dir="auto">No, engine has experienced a
                          lean seizure. </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Lack of lube is another way to
                          put it. </div>
                        <div dir="auto">No quick fix. </div>
                        <div dir="auto">The engine will need a piston
                          and rings at the least. </div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Pull off the muffler, look in at
                          the piston, you’ll see the piston scored on
                          the exhaust side. </div>
                        <div dir="auto">If you’re lucky the cylinder
                          isn’t damaged, you’ll have to </div>
                        <div dir="auto">pull the cylinder to check it. </div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Used to do 15 or 20 of those
                          every year. </div>
                        <div dir="auto">One quick error, sometimes, can
                          cost a lot of money. </div>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov
                            27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike M <<a
                              href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                            style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">So
                            my lovely wife was out blowing leaves the
                            other day with my backpack<br>
                            blower, and it ran out of fuel. She
                            mistakenly filled it with straight<br>
                            lawnmower gas, and after a bit it started to
                            stumble and then quit. She<br>
                            came in to tell me about it and ask what the
                            problem was. When I looked<br>
                            at the tank I noticed there was no blue tint
                            in the gas, and I asked her<br>
                            what can she filled it from, and she pointed
                            to the gas container I use<br>
                            for my zero turn. I told her that was
                            straight gas, and she needed to<br>
                            use the 2 cycle mix, that is in another red
                            5 gallon can, honest<br>
                            mistake. She claims I told her to use that
                            fuel, when I know I did not. <br>
                            I used it today and it will run for about 5
                            minutes and then sputter out<br>
                            and die, like it's running out of gas. It
                            will restart, but then the<br>
                            same scenario starts all over again. Is
                            their any chance of saving this<br>
                            engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas ratio? Thanks
                            in advance.<br>
                            <br>
                            Regards,<br>
                            Mike M<br>
                            <br>
                            --<br>
                            This email has been checked for viruses by
                            Avast antivirus software.<br>
                            <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br>
                            <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                            AT mailing list<br>
                            <a
                              href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                            <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                          </blockquote>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      -- <br>
                      <div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Moe
                        Fretz <br>
                        <br>
                        L’Orignal ON,<br>
                        Canada </div>
                      <br>
                      <fieldset></fieldset>
                      <pre style="font-family:monospace">_______________________________________________
AT mailing list
<a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
<a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:monospace" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
</pre>
                    </blockquote>
                    <br>
                    <div
                      id="m_4673220196275785147DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
                      <table
style="border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(211,212,222)">
                        <tbody>
                          <tr>
                            <td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><img
src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"
                                  alt="" style="width: 46px; height:
                                  29px;" data-unique-identifier=""
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" width="46"
                                  height="29"></a></td>
                            <td
style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px;color:rgb(65,66,78)">Virus-free.
                              <a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link"
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,83,234)"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.avast.com</a>
                            </td>
                          </tr>
                        </tbody>
                      </table>
                      <a
                        href="#m_4673220196275785147_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"
                        width="1" height="1" moz-do-not-send="true"> </a></div>
                  </div>
                  _______________________________________________<br>
                  AT mailing list<br>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
            -- <br>
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"
              data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Moe Fretz <br>
              <br>
              L’Orignal ON,<br>
              Canada </div>
            <span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
            <span>AT mailing list</span><br>
            <span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></span><br>
            <span><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></span><br>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
AT mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>