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<div><font size="3">Just one data point, and mine is from mostly six volt Deere tractors.... I have had the best results when I get a big thick ground cable and bolt it directly to one of the starter mounting bolts.  There is very little current through a VOM, so even with a 0.00 ohm reading, that doesn't say how much current it can handle.  <br>
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<div><font size="3">Again, just one data point, lots of good advice on this list.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">Take care, John<br>
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From: Carl Szabelski <c.s.szabelski@gmail.com><br>
To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br>
Sent: Sat, Nov 20, 2021 11:04 am<br>
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor battery<br>
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<div>You really shouldn’t bolt a ground to something that then has to make contact with the engine block. You want a direct connection to the block for best grounding. Is there a bolt, like for the water pump or starter, that is a through bolt with a nut on the block side? If so, put the cable on the nut side where it can contact the block.
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<div>Carl<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Saturday, November 20, 2021, Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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    I did throw an meter on the ground and the bolt it is bolted to and
    it came back at 0.00 Ohms.<br clear="none">
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    Mike M<br clear="none">
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<div>On 11/20/2021 11:01 AM, Spencer Yost
      wrote:<br clear="none">
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      The battery usually sits in a tray and that tray is bolted on with
      3 or 4 bolts.  That would be my go-to spot if what I just said
      about a tray and it’s mounting is true for your tractor. <br clear="none">
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        <blockquote type="cite">On Nov 20, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Carl
          Szabelski <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com"><c.s.szabelski@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">I guess it’s also an issue of how long your
          cable is. You can get them in various lengths and wire sizes,
          so it becomes a matter of how far you have to route the cable.
          The farther you have to go, the larger the cable size. You
          would also have to consider strapping down the cable if you
          have to go a ways.
          
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<div>Carl</div>

          
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            On Friday, November 19, 2021, HRP <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hrpletch@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:hrpletch@gmail.com">hrpletch@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>And I don’t picture the adjusting bolt as
                necessarily having a good connection to the block for
                the starter current. <br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Howard</div>

                
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                  On Nov 19, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Carl Szabelski <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com">c.s.szabelski@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I wouldn’t use any bolt that’s primary
                    use is for adjusting. You want a bolt that once
                    tightened down, doesn’t get touched again for any
                    reason. If you have to use one that isn’t as easy to
                    get to, just keep in mind that you shouldn’t ever
                    have to touch it again. Whatever effort you have to
                    go through will hopefully only need to be done
                    once. 
                    
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<div>Carl<br clear="none">
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                      On Friday, November 19, 2021, Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
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<div> I have an alternator adjustment bolt that
                          is easy access, would that be a good choice?<br clear="none">
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                          Mike M  <br clear="none">
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<div>On 11/16/2021 11:34 PM, Carl Szabelski
                            wrote:<br clear="none">
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                          <blockquote type="cite"> You can run a new
                            cable to the engine block, just need to find
                            a spot where there is an unused threaded
                            hole, or where you can remove a bolt and use
                            it to make the attachment. Clean the area
                            and hit it with a file or some sandpaper,
                            then run a tap in the hole to make sure
                            everything is clean before attaching the
                            cable. If necessary use a new bolt and flat
                            washer,  stainless will help with future
                            corrosion issues/concerns.
                            
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<div>Carl</div>

                            
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                              On Monday, November 15, 2021, Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
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<div> Tore out the battery today, tons
                                  of corrosion, to the point that the
                                  positive nut for the clamp was almost
                                  reduced by 75%, I had to pound it off.
                                  I thought I had things cleaned up but
                                  it appears that was not the case. I'll
                                  go battery shopping tomorrow, and
                                  hopefully I can find something close.
                                  Meanwhile I have the battery case
                                  coated in baking soda, to help
                                  neutralize the leaking battery acid.
                                  Question for the list can I jump a
                                  diesel, without the battery installed?
                                  I'm running out of time in Michigan,
                                  and all our water is shut off except
                                  the barn frost free.  <br clear="none">
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                                  Thanks,<br clear="none">
                                  Mike M<br clear="none">
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<div>On 11/15/2021 3:37 PM, Steve W.
                                    wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">Not a
                                        problem, I get to deal with
                                        these things a lot. At this
                                        point even doing simple repairs
                                        are becoming hard if not
                                        impossible for the average DIYer
                                        due to the way the companies are
                                        building them. There are some
                                        out there now that have “sealed
                                        drivelines” where they have no
                                        dipsticks or easily accessible
                                        fill plugs to even do routine
                                        service and you need a scan tool
                                        to even check fluid levels!<br clear="none">
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<div style="border:none;padding:0in;" class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal"><b>From:
                                          </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com">Stephen
                                            Offiler</a><br clear="none">
                                          <b>Sent: </b>Monday, November
                                          15, 2021 5:28 AM<br clear="none">
                                          <b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">Antique
                                            Tractor Email Discussion
                                            Group</a><br clear="none">
                                          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT]
                                          Tractor battery</div>

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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">Extremely
                                            useful and informative for
                                            modern vehicles, thanks
                                            SteveW!</div>

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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">Steve O.</div>

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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">On Sun,
                                            Nov 14, 2021 at 10:39 PM
                                            Steve W. <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:swilliams268@frontier.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swilliams268@frontier.com">swilliams268@frontier.com</a>>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">Whatever
                                                you do, do NOT use the
                                                old “unhook the battery
                                                to see if it stays
                                                running” test that used
                                                to be done. On any
                                                vehicles newer than
                                                about 1998 that is
                                                almost a guaranteed way
                                                to destroy the charging
                                                system. On most cars and
                                                trucks built from there
                                                on up, the voltage
                                                regulator is part of the
                                                engines control unit.
                                                Those are not cheap to
                                                replace. Another no-no
                                                is to jump start a newer
                                                vehicle without charging
                                                the battery or leaving a
                                                jump pack on it, many of
                                                the newer vehicles will
                                                read the bad battery and
                                                crank the voltage and
                                                amperage way up to try
                                                to compensate for the
                                                low battery, that can
                                                kill the alternator, and
                                                if the battery is
                                                failing it can blow it
                                                up from the excessive
                                                charging. I can’t count
                                                how many vehicles I had
                                                to repair once the bug
                                                measures let people
                                                start using their cars
                                                again, after they were
                                                parked for 3-4 months. <br clear="none">
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                                                Now if you are one of
                                                the “fortunate” who has
                                                one of the over
                                                engineered modern
                                                rolling computers made
                                                from about 2017 and up,
                                                Check really close in
                                                service information
                                                before you replace an
                                                old battery, many of
                                                those need to have the
                                                battery initialized into
                                                the system because the
                                                ECU has adjusted itself
                                                as the old battery wore
                                                out, you need to tell it
                                                that you are installing
                                                the new battery and what
                                                it is in CCA and type,
                                                be it a flooded cell,
                                                AGM, Lithium or other as
                                                they all use slightly
                                                different charging
                                                routines and it’s easy
                                                to cook a battery if
                                                it’s set up wrong. To go
                                                with that, many of the
                                                parts stores offer
                                                installation as long as
                                                you have one that is
                                                reasonably easy, there
                                                are quite a few that are
                                                not due to the battery
                                                locations. OH and for
                                                the import owners, be
                                                sure which battery you
                                                actually need as many of
                                                the high dollar brands
                                                use 2 or three different
                                                batteries scattered
                                                around the vehicle.
                                                Mercedes for instance
                                                has one in the trunk,
                                                one under the hood and
                                                one tucked in behind the
                                                dash! <br clear="none">
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                                                For those of you who
                                                still want to DIY it,
                                                here is another tip. On
                                                cars that have lots of
                                                options or anything 2017
                                                and up, the security
                                                systems can be a royal
                                                pain if you remove the
                                                battery, they can lock
                                                you out of everything so
                                                you end up towing it to
                                                a dealer to have it
                                                flashed back. The way
                                                around this is simple.
                                                Find the feed and ground
                                                lugs for the fuse box or
                                                if it has them the
                                                jumper terminals mounted
                                                out in the open. Now
                                                grab a power supply or a
                                                fully charged battery
                                                and connect it up to
                                                those, in the case of
                                                using a spare battery,
                                                connect it, start the
                                                engine and let it run
                                                for 20 minutes or so,
                                                that will equalize the
                                                charge in the add-on
                                                battery, verify that the
                                                charging circuit is
                                                working as well, simply
                                                by measuring the voltage
                                                with the engine off,
                                                then again with it
                                                running. With a power
                                                supply (NOT A COMMON
                                                CHARGER) you just dial
                                                it up to the voltage the
                                                service info says or at
                                                least 13 volts. Now you
                                                can disconnect the main
                                                battery without losing
                                                any settings or
                                                programming because the
                                                ECU never sees it
                                                disconnected. Just
                                                remember that the
                                                Positive terminal will
                                                still be hot when you do
                                                this, my SOP is to pull
                                                the ground side, then
                                                take a heavy
                                                rubber/plastic baggy and
                                                as soon as the pos.
                                                comes of it goes into
                                                the bag to keep it safe.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal"><b>From:
                                                  </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com">Henry
                                                    Miller</a><br clear="none">
                                                  <b>Sent: </b>Sunday,
                                                  November 14, 2021 4:23
                                                  PM<br clear="none">
                                                  <b>To: </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br clear="none">
                                                  <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                  [AT] Tractor battery</div>

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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">Be
                                                careful with modern
                                                cars, some cycle the
                                                alternator on and off. 
                                                Weird when driving to
                                                see the voltmeter not
                                                hold constant. (This was
                                                a rental car, I almost
                                                turned around for one
                                                that worked before I
                                                figured it out )</div>

                                              
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">-- </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">  Henry
                                                Miller</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">  <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com">hank@millerfarm.com</a></div>

                                              
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">On
                                                Sun, Nov 14, 2021, at
                                                16:37, Stephen Offiler
                                                wrote:</div>

                                              
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                                                Quick check is just
                                                battery voltage not
                                                running versus running. 
                                                If your</div>

                                              
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                                                alternator is putting
                                                out something, voltage
                                                is higher when running. 
                                                If</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                the alternator is bad,
                                                voltage is close to the
                                                same or a bit lower when</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                running (probably lower
                                                because the battery gave
                                                up some juice to crank
                                                it</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                over).  If you are
                                                wondering if the
                                                alternator is somewhere
                                                in between</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                healthy and dead, turn
                                                on as many electrical
                                                loads as you can while</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                running.  Alternator
                                                should handle those
                                                loads and still give the
                                                battery</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                terminals something over
                                                13.5V.  (Because it is
                                                supplying other things
                                                in</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                addition to battery
                                                recharge, you may not
                                                see the whole 14-ish
                                                volts, but</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                it must be greater than
                                                12.6-ish to be pushing
                                                charge into the battery.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                Hope this helps.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                SO</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>
                                                On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at
                                                3:43 PM Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                Thanks Steve, it there a
                                                way to test whats coming
                                                out the alternator?</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                Mike M</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                On 11/14/2021 2:15 PM,
                                                Stephen Offiler wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                Hi Mike:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                I've heard baking soda
                                                can neutralize the acid
                                                but I'd probably ask the</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                Google for backup on
                                                that.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                A good range for battery
                                                terminal voltage
                                                engine-running is
                                                13.6V-14.4V.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                Some modern voltage
                                                regulators have
                                                temperature
                                                compensation, dropping</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                voltage in high
                                                temperature conditions
                                                (when it is easier to
                                                charge and</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                easier to overdo it) and
                                                raising voltage in the
                                                cold (when they're not
                                                as</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                eager to accept
                                                charge).  Not all
                                                alternators do this, but
                                                I just wanted to</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                explain why there's such
                                                a fairly wide range.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                SO</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>
                                                On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at
                                                2:03 PM Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                Tough to say Steve, I do
                                                know that I filled some
                                                of the battery chambers</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                with distilled water
                                                because some seemed a
                                                little low, and it
                                                leaked</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                battery acid for a few
                                                days. whats the best way
                                                to clean that up? I know</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                it's very caustic. What
                                                should the voltage be
                                                across the terminals
                                                with the</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                engine running?</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                Thanks,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                Mike M</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                On 10/28/2021 6:08 AM,
                                                Stephen Offiler wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                The question is, what
                                                happened?  Is your
                                                alternator not charging?</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                SO</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>
                                                On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at
                                                9:30 PM Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Whew!! got it back for
                                                now. It started right up
                                                and the terminals where</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                shiny as new, ground as
                                                well. Voltage across the
                                                terminals was 13.3 and</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                climbing. I have the
                                                trickle charger on it
                                                overnight, and will give
                                                it a</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                good workout tomorrow.
                                                Thanks for all the help!</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Regards,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Mike M</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                On 10/27/2021 1:22 PM,
                                                Mike M wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                When I checked the
                                                voltage between the
                                                posts with a digital
                                                volt meter,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                I only got 11.5 volts, I
                                                left the charger on
                                                overnight, and it's now
                                                up to</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                13 volts, so I switched
                                                to a maintainer.  It's
                                                raining here today so
                                                I'm</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                leaving it on the
                                                charger, and yes I will
                                                check the grounds for
                                                sure!</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Thanks for the advice to
                                                all. I'll let you know
                                                how it turns out.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Regards,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Mike M</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                On 10/27/2021 7:54 AM,
                                                Steve Offiler wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                I wonder how many
                                                thousands of times
                                                farmer has typed that
                                                over the</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                years!</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                When Mike said it only
                                                clicked when jumped,
                                                that simply says bad</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                connection.  I’m not
                                                sure why the focus on a
                                                bad battery just yet.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Steve O.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Sent from my iPhone</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                On Oct 27, 2021, at 6:47
                                                AM, Indiana Robinson
                                                <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>></div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Check the grounds.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Check the grounds.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                Check the grounds.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                .</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>
                                                On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at
                                                1:22 AM Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                Makes me wish for my old
                                                tractor and I could back
                                                it up onto a hill,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                let it get rolling and
                                                pop the clutch in 2nd
                                                gear.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                Mike M</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                On 10/26/2021 11:46 PM,
                                                Carl Szabelski wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                Mike,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                Try jumping it, but
                                                leave the cables
                                                connected for 20-30
                                                minutes before</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                you attempt a start.
                                                Even if you’ve had the
                                                charger on all night.
                                                Even with</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                a dead battery it should
                                                start and run. It may
                                                die when you disconnect
                                                the</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                cables, but if it
                                                doesn’t, it should run,
                                                but the battery probably
                                                won’t</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                take a charge.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                Carl</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
                                                On Tuesday, October 26,
                                                2021, Mike M <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                So my tractor battery
                                                went dead overnight.
                                                It's an Exide Select</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                Performance battery,
                                                with 925 CCA model 31XHE
                                                with 180 minutes of</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                reserve capacity. I
                                                tried jumping it with my
                                                truck but no luck it
                                                would</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                just click. I started
                                                looking online, and
                                                about fell out of my
                                                chair.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                Prices started at $300
                                                and and most are out of
                                                stock. Does anyone have</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                any good sources for
                                                batteries? It was
                                                manufactured in 2014, so
                                                I guess</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                the clock just ran out.
                                                Any ideas would be
                                                greatly appreciated. Is</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                there</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                anyway to service it, or
                                                rejuvenate it?</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                Thank you,</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                Mike M</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                --</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                This email has been
                                                checked for viruses by
                                                Avast antivirus
                                                software.</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">https://www.avast.com/antiviru s</a></div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
______________________________ _________________</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
                                                AT mailing list</div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>>
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>> </div>

                                              
<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
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<div class="yiv2179395515MsoNormal">>>>>>
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                                                aka "farmer"</div>

                                              
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                                                Central Indiana USA</div>

                                              
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