<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">And I don’t picture the adjusting bolt as necessarily having a good connection to the block for the starter current. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Howard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Nov 19, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Carl Szabelski <<a href="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com">c.s.szabelski@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I wouldn’t use any bolt that’s primary use is for adjusting. You want a bolt that once tightened down, doesn’t get touched again for any reason. If you have to use one that isn’t as easy to get to, just keep in mind that you shouldn’t ever have to touch it again. Whatever effort you have to go through will hopefully only need to be done once. <div><br></div><div>Carl<br><br>On Friday, November 19, 2021, Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
I have an alternator adjustment bolt that is easy access, would that
be a good choice?<br>
<br>
Mike M <br>
<br>
<div>On 11/16/2021 11:34 PM, Carl Szabelski
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
You can run a new cable to the engine block, just need to find a
spot where there is an unused threaded hole, or where you can
remove a bolt and use it to make the attachment. Clean the area
and hit it with a file or some sandpaper, then run a tap in the
hole to make sure everything is clean before attaching the cable.
If necessary use a new bolt and flat washer, stainless will help
with future corrosion issues/concerns.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Carl</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<br>
On Monday, November 15, 2021, Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div> Tore out the battery today, tons of corrosion, to the
point that the positive nut for the clamp was almost reduced
by 75%, I had to pound it off. I thought I had things
cleaned up but it appears that was not the case. I'll go
battery shopping tomorrow, and hopefully I can find
something close. Meanwhile I have the battery case coated in
baking soda, to help neutralize the leaking battery acid.
Question for the list can I jump a diesel, without the
battery installed? I'm running out of time in Michigan, and
all our water is shut off except the barn frost free. <br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike M<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/15/2021 3:37 PM, Steve W. wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Not a problem, I get to deal with
these things a lot. At this point even doing simple
repairs are becoming hard if not impossible for the
average DIYer due to the way the companies are
building them. There are some out there now that have
“sealed drivelines” where they have no dipsticks or
easily accessible fill plugs to even do routine
service and you need a scan tool to even check fluid
levels!<br>
<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank">Stephen
Offiler</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">Antique
Tractor Email Discussion Group</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT] Tractor battery</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Extremely useful and
informative for modern vehicles, thanks SteveW!</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Steve O.</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:39
PM Steve W. <<a href="mailto:swilliams268@frontier.com" target="_blank">swilliams268@frontier.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Whatever you do,
do NOT use the old “unhook the battery to see
if it stays running” test that used to be
done. On any vehicles newer than about 1998
that is almost a guaranteed way to destroy the
charging system. On most cars and trucks built
from there on up, the voltage regulator is
part of the engines control unit. Those are
not cheap to replace. Another no-no is to jump
start a newer vehicle without charging the
battery or leaving a jump pack on it, many of
the newer vehicles will read the bad battery
and crank the voltage and amperage way up to
try to compensate for the low battery, that
can kill the alternator, and if the battery is
failing it can blow it up from the excessive
charging. I can’t count how many vehicles I
had to repair once the bug measures let people
start using their cars again, after they were
parked for 3-4 months. <br>
<br>
Now if you are one of the “fortunate” who has
one of the over engineered modern rolling
computers made from about 2017 and up, Check
really close in service information before you
replace an old battery, many of those need to
have the battery initialized into the system
because the ECU has adjusted itself as the old
battery wore out, you need to tell it that you
are installing the new battery and what it is
in CCA and type, be it a flooded cell, AGM,
Lithium or other as they all use slightly
different charging routines and it’s easy to
cook a battery if it’s set up wrong. To go
with that, many of the parts stores offer
installation as long as you have one that is
reasonably easy, there are quite a few that
are not due to the battery locations. OH and
for the import owners, be sure which battery
you actually need as many of the high dollar
brands use 2 or three different batteries
scattered around the vehicle. Mercedes for
instance has one in the trunk, one under the
hood and one tucked in behind the dash! <br>
<br>
For those of you who still want to DIY it,
here is another tip. On cars that have lots of
options or anything 2017 and up, the security
systems can be a royal pain if you remove the
battery, they can lock you out of everything
so you end up towing it to a dealer to have it
flashed back. The way around this is simple.
Find the feed and ground lugs for the fuse box
or if it has them the jumper terminals mounted
out in the open. Now grab a power supply or a
fully charged battery and connect it up to
those, in the case of using a spare battery,
connect it, start the engine and let it run
for 20 minutes or so, that will equalize the
charge in the add-on battery, verify that the
charging circuit is working as well, simply by
measuring the voltage with the engine off,
then again with it running. With a power
supply (NOT A COMMON CHARGER) you just dial it
up to the voltage the service info says or at
least 13 volts. Now you can disconnect the
main battery without losing any settings or
programming because the ECU never sees it
disconnected. Just remember that the Positive
terminal will still be hot when you do this,
my SOP is to pull the ground side, then take a
heavy rubber/plastic baggy and as soon as the
pos. comes of it goes into the bag to keep it
safe.<br>
<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com" target="_blank">Henry
Miller</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:23
PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT] Tractor battery</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Be careful with modern
cars, some cycle the alternator on and off.
Weird when driving to see the voltmeter not
hold constant. (This was a rental car, I
almost turned around for one that worked
before I figured it out )</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Henry Miller</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com" target="_blank">hank@millerfarm.com</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, at
16:37, Stephen Offiler wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Quick check is just
battery voltage not running versus running.
If your</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> alternator is putting
out something, voltage is higher when
running. If</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> the alternator is bad,
voltage is close to the same or a bit lower
when</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> running (probably
lower because the battery gave up some juice
to crank it</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> over). If you are
wondering if the alternator is somewhere in
between</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> healthy and dead, turn
on as many electrical loads as you can while</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> running. Alternator
should handle those loads and still give the
battery</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> terminals something
over 13.5V. (Because it is supplying other
things in</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> addition to battery
recharge, you may not see the whole 14-ish
volts, but</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> it must be greater
than 12.6-ish to be pushing charge into the
battery.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Hope this helps.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> SO</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021
at 3:43 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> Thanks Steve, it
there a way to test whats coming out the
alternator?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> Mike M</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> On 11/14/2021 2:15
PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> Hi Mike:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> I've heard baking
soda can neutralize the acid but I'd probably
ask the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> Google for backup
on that.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> A good range for
battery terminal voltage engine-running is
13.6V-14.4V.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> Some modern
voltage regulators have temperature
compensation, dropping</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> voltage in high
temperature conditions (when it is easier to
charge and</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> easier to overdo
it) and raising voltage in the cold (when
they're not as</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> eager to accept
charge). Not all alternators do this, but I
just wanted to</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> explain why
there's such a fairly wide range.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> SO</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> On Sun, Nov 14,
2021 at 2:03 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> Tough to say
Steve, I do know that I filled some of the
battery chambers</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> with distilled
water because some seemed a little low, and it
leaked</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> battery acid
for a few days. whats the best way to clean
that up? I know</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> it's very
caustic. What should the voltage be across the
terminals with the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> engine
running?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> Thanks,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> Mike M</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> On 10/28/2021
6:08 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> The question
is, what happened? Is your alternator not
charging?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> SO</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> On Wed, Oct
27, 2021 at 9:30 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Whew!! got
it back for now. It started right up and the
terminals where</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> shiny as
new, ground as well. Voltage across the
terminals was 13.3 and</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> climbing.
I have the trickle charger on it overnight,
and will give it a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> good
workout tomorrow. Thanks for all the help!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Mike M</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> On
10/27/2021 1:22 PM, Mike M wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> When I
checked the voltage between the posts with a
digital volt meter,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> I only got
11.5 volts, I left the charger on overnight,
and it's now up to</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> 13 volts,
so I switched to a maintainer. It's raining
here today so I'm</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> leaving it
on the charger, and yes I will check the
grounds for sure!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Thanks for
the advice to all. I'll let you know how it
turns out.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Mike M</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> On
10/27/2021 7:54 AM, Steve Offiler wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> I wonder
how many thousands of times farmer has typed
that over the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> years!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> When Mike
said it only clicked when jumped, that simply
says bad</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>
connection. I’m not sure why the focus on a
bad battery just yet.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Steve O.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Sent from
my iPhone</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> On Oct 27,
2021, at 6:47 AM, Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Check the
grounds.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Check the
grounds.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> Check the
grounds.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> .</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> On Wed,
Oct 27, 2021 at 1:22 AM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> Makes
me wish for my old tractor and I could back it
up onto a hill,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> let it
get rolling and pop the clutch in 2nd gear.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> Mike M</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> On
10/26/2021 11:46 PM, Carl Szabelski wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> Mike,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> Try
jumping it, but leave the cables connected for
20-30 minutes before</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> you
attempt a start. Even if you’ve had the
charger on all night. Even with</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> a dead
battery it should start and run. It may die
when you disconnect the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>
cables, but if it doesn’t, it should run, but
the battery probably won’t</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> take a
charge.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> Carl</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> On
Tuesday, October 26, 2021, Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>> So
my tractor battery went dead overnight. It's
an Exide Select</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
Performance battery, with 925 CCA model 31XHE
with 180 minutes of</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
reserve capacity. I tried jumping it with my
truck but no luck it would</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
just click. I started looking online, and
about fell out of my chair.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
Prices started at $300 and and most are out of
stock. Does anyone have</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
any good sources for batteries? It was
manufactured in 2014, so I guess</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
the clock just ran out. Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated. Is</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
there</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
anyway to service it, or rejuvenate it?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
Thank you,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>>
Mike M</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>>> </p>
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