<div dir="ltr"><div>11.3V is either a poorly charged battery, or it is a battery that is compromised. It might take charge and give the appearance of being OK, but not hold the charge for very long.</div><div><br></div><div>13.3V is low-ish but that could certainly be caused by a battery that is sucking up so much recharge current that the alternator can barely keep up.</div><div><br></div><div>This is the battery that was giving you trouble at the start of this thread a couple weeks ago? Yeah, sounds like replacement time.</div><div><br></div><div>SO<br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 7:19 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Voltage at the battery without the tractor running is 11.3 with it<br>
running it's 13.3, look's like I need a new battery. 3 cyl diesel<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
  Mike M<br>
<br>
On 11/14/2021 6:21 PM, BRUCE MAHR wrote:<br>
> Check the voltage at the battery with a voltmeter, needs to be 13.50-14.50 volts.<br>
><br>
> Bruce Mahr<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
> Sent: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 15:43:29 -0500 (EST)<br>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor battery<br>
><br>
> Thanks Steve, it there a way to test whats coming out the alternator?<br>
><br>
> Mike M<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 11/14/2021 2:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
>> Hi Mike:<br>
>><br>
>> I've heard baking soda can neutralize the acid but I'd probably ask<br>
>> the Google for backup on that.<br>
>><br>
>> A good range for battery terminal voltage engine-running is<br>
>> 13.6V-14.4V. Some modern voltage regulators have temperature<br>
>> compensation, dropping voltage in high temperature conditions (when it<br>
>> is easier to charge and easier to overdo it) and raising voltage in<br>
>> the cold (when they're not as eager to accept charge). Not all<br>
>> alternators do this, but I just wanted to explain why there's such a<br>
>> fairly wide range.<br>
>><br>
>> SO<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 2:03 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â Â Tough to say Steve, I do know that I filled some of the battery<br>
>>Â Â Â chambers with distilled water because some seemed a little low,<br>
>>Â Â Â and it leaked battery acid for a few days. whats the best way to<br>
>>Â Â Â clean that up? I know it's very caustic. What should the voltage<br>
>>Â Â Â be across the terminals with the engine running?<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â Â Thanks,<br>
>>Â Â Â Mike M<br>
>><br>
>>Â Â Â On 10/28/2021 6:08 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
>>>   The question is, what happened? Is your alternator not charging?<br>
>>><br>
>>>Â Â Â SO<br>
>>><br>
>>>Â Â Â On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:30 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â Whew!! got it back for now. It started right up and the<br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â terminals where shiny as new, ground as well. Voltage across<br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â the terminals was 13.3 and climbing. I have the trickle<br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â charger on it overnight, and will give it a good workout<br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â tomorrow. Thanks for all the help!<br>
>>><br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â Regards,<br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â Mike M<br>
>>><br>
>>>Â Â Â Â Â On 10/27/2021 1:22 PM, Mike M wrote:<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â When I checked the voltage between the posts with a digital<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â volt meter, I only got 11.5 volts, I left the charger on<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â overnight, and it's now up to 13 volts, so I switched to a<br>
>>>>     maintainer. It's raining here today so I'm leaving it on<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â the charger, and yes I will check the grounds for sure!<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Thanks for the advice to all. I'll let you know how it turns<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â out.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Regards,<br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Mike M<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Â Â Â Â Â On 10/27/2021 7:54 AM, Steve Offiler wrote:<br>
>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â I wonder how many thousands of times farmer has typed that<br>
>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â over the years!<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â When Mike said it only clicked when jumped, that simply<br>
>>>>>     says bad connection. I’m not sure why the focus on a bad<br>
>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â battery just yet.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Steve O.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â On Oct 27, 2021, at 6:47 AM, Indiana Robinson<br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>     <br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Check the grounds.<br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Check the grounds.<br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Check the grounds.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â .<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 1:22 AM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Makes me wish for my old tractor and I could back it<br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â up onto a hill, let it get rolling and pop the clutch<br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â in 2nd gear.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Mike M<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On 10/26/2021 11:46 PM, Carl Szabelski wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Mike,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Try jumping it, but leave the cables connected for<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 20-30 minutes before you attempt a start. Even if<br>
>>>>>>>       you’ve had the charger on all night. Even with a dead<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â battery it should start and run. It may die when you<br>
>>>>>>>       disconnect the cables, but if it doesn’t, it should<br>
>>>>>>>       run, but the battery probably won’t take a charge.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Carl<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, Mike M<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â So my tractor battery went dead overnight. It's<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â an Exide Select<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Performance battery, with 925 CCA model 31XHE<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â with 180 minutes of<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â reserve capacity. I tried jumping it with my<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â truck but no luck it would<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â just click. I started looking online, and about<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â fell out of my chair.<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Prices started at $300 and and most are out of<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â stock. Does anyone have<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â any good sources for batteries? It was<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â manufactured in 2014, so I guess<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â the clock just ran out. Any ideas would be<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â greatly appreciated. Is there<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â anyway to service it, or rejuvenate it?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Thank you,<br>
>>>>>>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Mike M<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
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