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    Tore out the battery today, tons of corrosion, to the point that the
    positive nut for the clamp was almost reduced by 75%, I had to pound
    it off. I thought I had things cleaned up but it appears that was
    not the case. I'll go battery shopping tomorrow, and hopefully I can
    find something close. Meanwhile I have the battery case coated in
    baking soda, to help neutralize the leaking battery acid. Question
    for the list can I jump a diesel, without the battery installed? I'm
    running out of time in Michigan, and all our water is shut off
    except the barn frost free.  <br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Mike M<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2021 3:37 PM, Steve W. wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Not a problem, I get to deal with these
          things a lot. At this point even doing simple repairs are
          becoming hard if not impossible for the average DIYer due to
          the way the companies are building them. There are some out
          there now that have “sealed drivelines” where they have no
          dipsticks or easily accessible fill plugs to even do routine
          service and you need a scan tool to even check fluid levels!<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
            </b><a href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">Stephen Offiler</a><br>
            <b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 AM<br>
            <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">Antique Tractor Email Discussion
              Group</a><br>
            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT] Tractor battery</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Extremely useful and informative for
              modern vehicles, thanks SteveW!</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Steve O.</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:39 PM Steve
              W. <<a href="mailto:swilliams268@frontier.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">swilliams268@frontier.com</a>>
              wrote:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Whatever
                  you do, do NOT use the old “unhook the battery to see
                  if it stays running” test that used to be done. On any
                  vehicles newer than about 1998 that is almost a
                  guaranteed way to destroy the charging system. On most
                  cars and trucks built from there on up, the voltage
                  regulator is part of the engines control unit. Those
                  are not cheap to replace. Another no-no is to jump
                  start a newer vehicle without charging the battery or
                  leaving a jump pack on it, many of the newer vehicles
                  will read the bad battery and crank the voltage and
                  amperage way up to try to compensate for the low
                  battery, that can kill the alternator, and if the
                  battery is failing it can blow it up from the
                  excessive charging. I can’t count how many vehicles I
                  had to repair once the bug measures let people start
                  using their cars again, after they were parked for 3-4
                  months. <br>
                  <br>
                  Now if you are one of the “fortunate” who has one of
                  the over engineered modern rolling computers made from
                  about 2017 and up, Check really close in service
                  information before you replace an old battery, many of
                  those need to have the battery initialized into the
                  system because the ECU has adjusted itself as the old
                  battery wore out, you need to tell it that you are
                  installing the new battery and what it is in CCA and
                  type, be it a flooded cell, AGM, Lithium or other as
                  they all use slightly different charging routines and
                  it’s easy to cook a battery if it’s set up wrong. To
                  go with that, many of the parts stores offer
                  installation as long as you have one that is
                  reasonably easy, there are quite a few that are not
                  due to the battery locations. OH and for the import
                  owners, be sure which battery you actually need as
                  many of the high dollar brands use 2 or three
                  different batteries scattered around the vehicle.
                  Mercedes for instance has one in the trunk, one under
                  the hood and one tucked in behind the dash! <br>
                  <br>
                  For those of you who still want to DIY it, here is
                  another tip. On cars that have lots of options or
                  anything 2017 and up, the security systems can be a
                  royal pain if you remove the battery, they can lock
                  you out of everything so you end up towing it to a
                  dealer to have it flashed back. The way around this is
                  simple. Find the feed and ground lugs for the fuse box
                  or if it has them the jumper terminals mounted out in
                  the open. Now grab a power supply or a fully charged
                  battery and connect it up to those, in the case of
                  using a spare battery, connect it, start the engine
                  and let it run for 20 minutes or so, that will
                  equalize the charge in the add-on battery, verify that
                  the charging circuit is working as well, simply by
                  measuring the voltage with the engine off, then again
                  with it running. With a power supply (NOT A COMMON
                  CHARGER) you just dial it up to the voltage the
                  service info says or at least 13 volts. Now you can
                  disconnect the main battery without losing any
                  settings or programming because the ECU never sees it
                  disconnected. Just remember that the Positive terminal
                  will still be hot when you do this, my SOP is to pull
                  the ground side, then take a heavy rubber/plastic
                  baggy and as soon as the pos. comes of it goes into
                  the bag to keep it safe.<br>
                  <br>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:
                    </b><a href="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Henry
                      Miller</a><br>
                    <b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:23 PM<br>
                    <b>To: </b><a
                      href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                    <b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT] Tractor battery</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Be
                  careful with modern cars, some cycle the alternator on
                  and off.  Weird when driving to see the voltmeter not
                  hold constant. (This was a rental car, I almost turned
                  around for one that worked before I figured it out )</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">--
                </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">  Henry
                  Miller</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> 
                  <a href="mailto:hank@millerfarm.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">hank@millerfarm.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                  Sun, Nov 14, 2021, at 16:37, Stephen Offiler wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  Quick check is just battery voltage not running versus
                  running.  If your</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  alternator is putting out something, voltage is higher
                  when running.  If</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  the alternator is bad, voltage is close to the same or
                  a bit lower when</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  running (probably lower because the battery gave up
                  some juice to crank it</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  over).  If you are wondering if the alternator is
                  somewhere in between</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  healthy and dead, turn on as many electrical loads as
                  you can while</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  running.  Alternator should handle those loads and
                  still give the battery</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                  terminals something over 13.5V.  (Because it is
                  supplying other things in</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                  addition to battery recharge, you may not see the
                  whole 14-ish volts, but</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  it must be greater than 12.6-ish to be pushing charge
                  into the battery.</p>
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                  Hope this helps.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                  SO</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM Mike M <<a
                    href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  Thanks Steve, it there a way to test whats coming out
                  the alternator?</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  Mike M</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  On 11/14/2021 2:15 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  Hi Mike:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  I've heard baking soda can neutralize the acid but I'd
                  probably ask the</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  Google for backup on that.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  A good range for battery terminal voltage
                  engine-running is 13.6V-14.4V.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  Some modern voltage regulators have temperature
                  compensation, dropping</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  voltage in high temperature conditions (when it is
                  easier to charge and</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  easier to overdo it) and raising voltage in the cold
                  (when they're not as</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  eager to accept charge).  Not all alternators do this,
                  but I just wanted to</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  explain why there's such a fairly wide range.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  SO</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 2:03 PM Mike M <<a
                    href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  Tough to say Steve, I do know that I filled some of
                  the battery chambers</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  with distilled water because some seemed a little low,
                  and it leaked</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  battery acid for a few days. whats the best way to
                  clean that up? I know</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  it's very caustic. What should the voltage be across
                  the terminals with the</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  engine running?</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  Thanks,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  Mike M</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  On 10/28/2021 6:08 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  The question is, what happened?  Is your alternator
                  not charging?</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  SO</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:30 PM Mike M <<a
                    href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Whew!! got it back for now. It started right up and
                  the terminals where</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  shiny as new, ground as well. Voltage across the
                  terminals was 13.3 and</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  climbing. I have the trickle charger on it overnight,
                  and will give it a</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  good workout tomorrow. Thanks for all the help!</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Regards,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Mike M</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  On 10/27/2021 1:22 PM, Mike M wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  When I checked the voltage between the posts with a
                  digital volt meter,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  I only got 11.5 volts, I left the charger on
                  overnight, and it's now up to</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  13 volts, so I switched to a maintainer.  It's raining
                  here today so I'm</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  leaving it on the charger, and yes I will check the
                  grounds for sure!</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Thanks for the advice to all. I'll let you know how it
                  turns out.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Regards,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Mike M</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  On 10/27/2021 7:54 AM, Steve Offiler wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  I wonder how many thousands of times farmer has typed
                  that over the</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  years!</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  When Mike said it only clicked when jumped, that
                  simply says bad</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  connection.  I’m not sure why the focus on a bad
                  battery just yet.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Steve O.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Sent from my iPhone</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  On Oct 27, 2021, at 6:47 AM, Indiana Robinson <<a
                    href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Check the grounds.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Check the grounds.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Check the grounds.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  .</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 1:22 AM Mike M <<a
                    href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  Makes me wish for my old tractor and I could back it
                  up onto a hill,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  let it get rolling and pop the clutch in 2nd gear.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  Mike M</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  On 10/26/2021 11:46 PM, Carl Szabelski wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  Mike,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  Try jumping it, but leave the cables connected for
                  20-30 minutes before</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  you attempt a start. Even if you’ve had the charger on
                  all night. Even with</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  a dead battery it should start and run. It may die
                  when you disconnect the</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  cables, but if it doesn’t, it should run, but the
                  battery probably won’t</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  take a charge.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  Carl</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  On Tuesday, October 26, 2021, Mike M <<a
                    href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                  wrote:</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  So my tractor battery went dead overnight. It's an
                  Exide Select</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  Performance battery, with 925 CCA model 31XHE with 180
                  minutes of</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  reserve capacity. I tried jumping it with my truck but
                  no luck it would</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  just click. I started looking online, and about fell
                  out of my chair.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  Prices started at $300 and and most are out of stock.
                  Does anyone have</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  any good sources for batteries? It was manufactured in
                  2014, so I guess</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  the clock just ran out. Any ideas would be greatly
                  appreciated. Is</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  there</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  anyway to service it, or rejuvenate it?</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  Thank you,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  Mike M</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  --</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  This email has been checked for viruses by Avast
                  antivirus software.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  AT mailing <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://">listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://</a><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  <<a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon</a>>
                  Virus-free.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  <a href="http://www.avast.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">www.avast.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  <<a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link</a>></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
<#m_4238685920993932403_m_6436324273682177653_m_6934291975578660476_m_1207325010001759490_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  Francis Robinson</p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  aka "farmer"</p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  Central Indiana USA</p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  <a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">robinson46176@gmail.com</a></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  AT mailing <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://">listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://</a><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  AT mailing <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://">listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://</a><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  AT mailing <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://">listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://</a><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  AT mailing <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://">listAT@lists.antique-tractor.comhttp://</a><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>> </p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  _______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  AT mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">AT
                  mailing list</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
                    href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
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          AT mailing list<br>
          <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
          <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></p>
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AT mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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