<div dir="ltr">i can tell you all that someone paid almost 900 USD for it in non running condition.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Med vänlig hälsning</div><div><br></div><div>Mattias Kessén</div><div><br></div><div>Hässelstad Solhöjden 2</div><div>594 93 Gamleby</div><div><br></div><div>070-523 59 00</div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Den tis 28 sep. 2021 kl 06:59 skrev <<a href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com">k7jdj@aol.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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From: Mattias Kessén <<a href="mailto:davidbrown950@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidbrown950@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Moosepower it must be. An old engine like that one will be rated in Hp, kW wouldn't have been understood.
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<div>According to this guys face it seems fun to drive. <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBYJqYxOv_g" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBYJqYxOv_g</a></div>

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<div>Med vänlig hälsning</div>

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<div>Mattias Kessén</div>

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<div dir="ltr">Den fre 24 sep. 2021 kl 01:19 skrev Phil Auten <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:pga2@basicisp.net" target="_blank">pga2@basicisp.net</a>>:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div>Yeah, as long as it isn't a BIG moose, unless it is a downhill
      pull all the way. 😁</div>

    
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<div>On 9/23/2021 10:47 AM, Spencer Yost
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      Being used as a moose puller, I think MP is more appropriate.  MP
      stands for Moose (it can) Pull.  Clearly this thing could only be
      1MP.
      
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<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>

        
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:52 AM, Stephen
            Offiler <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank"><soffiler@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>I continue to assume either KW or PS, but not HP. 
                (Granted PS and HP are pretty darn close).  I'm at least
                mildly interested to know what units were customary
                when/where this machine was built.</div>

              
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<div>Using SAE values:  if this engine of 24 cu in
                displacement was capable of 1 ft-lb torque per cu in (a
                good rule of thumb for modern engines) at 3000rpm it
                would be making 13.7 HP.  I'd bet torque is not up to
                modern standards and peaks well below 3000rpm, so 8.9PS
                (=8.8HP) seems the best guess; whereas 8.9KW is over
                11HP.<br clear="none">
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                9:33 PM Carl Szabelski <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:c.s.szabelski@gmail.com" target="_blank">c.s.szabelski@gmail.com</a>>
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              <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Puissance means
                several things and can be used in several ways. One
                meaning is the height that a horse can jump. Several
                meanings are for “POWER” of various types, including
                mechanical. So I would assume that the 8.9 means 8.9
                horsepower.
                
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                  On Wednesday, September 22, 2021, Tom Martin <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:tmartin@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank">tmartin@xtra.co.nz</a>>
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                        06:49 Stephen Offiler <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank">soffiler@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">The language is French but the
                          machine is Swiss.  I've never heard of "CV"
                          but it turns out it's just another name for
                          metric horsepower (PS).
                          
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                            Tom Martin < <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:tmartin@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank">tmartin@xtra.co.nz</a>>
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<div>Surely, being French the units would be
                                cv -<em>cheval-vapeur </em><br clear="none">
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                                2021 at 01:08 Stephen Offiler < <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank">soffiler@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I wondered the
                                  same thing, Phil.  "Puissance" is
                                  Power and the dataplate gives 8.9 with
                                  no units.  Now IF the correct units
                                  are KW, that converts to 11.9HP. 
                                  Another guess at units would be PS
                                  ("PferdStarke") aka "metric
                                  horsepower" amd 8.9PS converts to
                                  8.8HP.
                                  
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<div>I think "regime" means "governor"
                                    at 3000rpm sounds right.</div>

                                  
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<div>"Alesage" is bore, so maybe
                                    "course" is stroke.  The numbers in
                                    mm give displacement of 391cc which
                                    appears to match the stated
                                    "Cylindree" of 400; I guess this is
                                    a single-cylinder engine. <br clear="none">
                                    
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                                    8:22 AM Phil Auten < <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:pga2@basicisp.net" target="_blank">pga2@basicisp.net</a>>
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<div>Interesting little machine. I
                                        cannot tell how much horsepower
                                        the dataplate tells us. Maybe 2?</div>

                                      
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<div>Hi,</div>

                                          
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<div>Mattias Kessén</div>

                                                  
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