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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Haven’t done much with tractors for ages, but continue to enjoy the heck out of this list! <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>This thread brought some memories back. My parents were both raised on horse-powered farms in Whitley County, Indiana. Dad wanted AWAY from the farm, and somehow, with superhuman strength and dedication, he ended up getting a PhD in Ag in 1947. And that was with a couple years in the Navy.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>But the memory that rushed back to me would have been 1951 just outside of Raleigh, NC. Dad was teaching at NC State, and he and Mother bought a couple acres outside of Raleigh. That first year, Dad went to the farmer next door, Mr. Atkins, to rent/borrow a mule and plow so Dad could start on our two acres. I was not right there, but I have often wondered what this good ol boy mule farmer in NC thought when this Yankee college professor wanted to borrow a mule!!<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Gene<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kenneth Gene Waugh<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com">Indiana Robinson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 30, 2021 7:31 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT] Cattle farmers</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=DefaultFontHxMailStyle><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You say: "Horse people are a funny lot."... OMG!!! What an understatement... :-) :-) :-)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Most of our clients are pretty much nuts. Too many of them are an accounts receivable nightmare. Many of them are of course just nice people but the bad eggs make it into work. We are only about 6 miles from the horse track and casino and we see a fair number of racehorses. Thankfully we are self care boarding and we don't do a whole lot of daily handling. Many of those that race come in pretty squirrelly. Word has gotten out that a short stay here will calm them down a lot. One gal that has kept horses here for 10 years works at the track and has kept several track horses with hers for short times. Right now only one client is not track connected. She is a vet tech that is now in KY and paying the 10 year gal to care for her horse. We only keep doing this stuff for 2 main reasons. One, we like the horses and second, we can make 6 or 7 times as much per acre as we can renting ground for corn / soybeans. I would shift more acres to the horses but I'm already too busy (and too old to get more busy).</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My father also grew up working horses on the farm. He really disliked horses. He always said that he spent his whole youth staring at a horse's rear end and hardly knew what the other end looked like. My paternal grandfather never owned a tractor or car. When my father took over the farm the horses were the first thing to go, replaced by a new Ford Ferguson 9N. </p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 6:33 PM Cecil Bearden <<a href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p>My Dad grew up working horses to farm. He always said you did not feed alfalfa to a horse that was going to be worked. They would get too hot. They only fed alfalfa in the winter. I sold horse hay for many years before I got cow that eat more than I can raise. I had people coming from 15 mi away to get my hay. I baled hay for a couple of "horse" people around here and they would wait until the hay was dry as broom straw before baling. Many times I baled mine the same day it was cut. I still do if I can get my old joints to keep calm..!! Nearly every buyer would remark how my hay was always so green when opened up and their horses would eat it like it was candy. I had one lady who called and returned 4 round bales because her 3 horses ate it up in 3 days. She said she could not afford to feed that much hay!!!! </p><p>Horse people are a funny lot. My 2 horses are 15 and 11 yrs old, and they eat anything I drop over the fence. I cut the weeds off their field with a swather and baled it to keep the weeds from going to seed. I baled it very very green. Big juicy weeds, 4 ft tall. 2 weeks later they were eating the bales where they sat!!! Moswt horse people don't want johnson grass as they say is is bad for horses. I had a vet tell me that a horse could handle more Johnson grass and the prussic acid that forms during heat stress than cattle could. I noticed that my horses keep the johnson grass ate down as far as they can reach over the fence... I bale it with the TS110 and now the new 504R Vermeer, then haul it in with the old 5000 Ford with the hyd bale trailer behind. The best thing I can find on the new baler is it will wrap a 12in diameter bale. I can wrap one like the old Allis roto Baler. Net wrap though...</p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Cecil</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/30/2021 6:00 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I wouldn't know why it wouldn't be OK. As a late first cutting it will naturally be a little stemy but it will still be hay. I have seen beef cattle in particular winter through on some remarkably rough hay. Much of what is feedable is often just the perception by people of what is good hay. I've seen people that would turn up their noses at decent hay on a good hay year but in a shortage of hay year (or a tight wallet year) they would feed thistles and scrub brush and be glad to get it. Son Scott once had a girlfriend that kept her horses here. I knew money was tight so I offered to give her some fairly decent hay I still had in the loft. She turned it down saying that her primary horse was a show horse and he couldn't eat that rough hay. I pointed over to the corner of the fence line and said "He ate that damned gate"... :-)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Our own little private herd of 7 useless but loved equine creatures (mostly rescues) normally winter over just running about 65 acres of corn stalks and soybean stubble and usually get fat on them. When the weather gets really bad we do usually stick in a round bale, often something son Scott didn't try to sell because it didn't tie right or was miss-shaped.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Most of the time if the world is encased in ice or deep snow we feed a few alfalfa cubes. About a pound per horse, hand-fed like treats late in the day seems to make a good difference in keeping them warm overnight. They have shelter but seldom use it. A couple of semi-recent old and starved rescues do get special feeding. They are getting pretty slick looking now.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To be on topic... Any time I take an old tractor out in the pastures they all have to gather around it and study it carefully. Not sure why, none of them know how to drive...</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 11:52 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all, I have a question. I have a guy that bales my field, for his<br>cattle. I just give it to him, because it saves me the trouble of brush<br>hogging it, and it doesn't go to waste. It's been so wet in SE<br>Michigan, he hasn't been able to get on it it yet, He's only baled 40 of<br>the 200 acres he normally bales. 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