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    They list 2 coils, I got the 396546r93, its almost double and what
    was in stock.<br>
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    John<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/26/2021 9:08 AM, Jason wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">The coil you should have gotten sb 396547r93.
          Which is a 12v internal resistor coil.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">It's unlikely if you have the right coil, that
          both old and new are bad.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Which leads to condenser, wiring, or ignition
          switch </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Jason</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 11:00 PM
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          <div> There is a wire tied in from the starter solenoid also.
            You would assume a new OEM coil to be good but who knows.
            All I know is it acts the same with both coils. I will note
            that the new coil had to be rotated 180 in the bracket to
            get it to hook up. The power is going in the plus side, just
            like schematic shows. Maybe they just put it in wrong at
            factory?<br>
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            John<br>
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            <div>On 8/25/2021 11:52 PM, Jason wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">Generally most coils have a resistor
                before them to lower the voltage so they don't burn up
                the points. Some applications have a booster wire from
                the small  terminal on the starter solenoid. Since there
                is a voltage drop when cranking, this booster wire
                temporarily raises the voltage to help during starting.
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                <div dir="auto">If everything else is fine. A coil that
                  fails as it warms up is a coil getting close, to well,
                  failing.</div>
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                <div dir="auto">Jason</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 25, 2021,
                  10:22 PM Howard Pletcher <<a
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Is that the
                      original coil?</div>
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I'm not
                      familiar with the 454, but in the truck world,
                      most coils are intended for 6V use.  There is a
                      resistor wire in the harness that drops the
                      voltage while the current is flowing with the
                      points closed.  But there are also coils intended
                      for 12V use with no resistor wire.  If that is not
                      the original coil, perhaps you have the wrong one.</div>
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Since it
                      seems to work fine with 12V applied, I'd probably
                      run another wire from the ignition switch to the
                      coil to bypass any possible resistor wire.</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 25,
                      2021 at 11:08 PM John Hall <<a
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                      If there is, I can't find it. Closes thing I have
                      found is the <br>
                      diode/rectifier for the alternator. Its inline and
                      is tied in on this <br>
                      particular "circuit" . Matter of fact, the side
                      opposite the alternator <br>
                      is where the fuel solenoid feeds from.<br>
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                      John Hall<br>
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                      On 8/25/2021 11:05 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:<br>
                      > Maybe there’s an external resistor?<br>
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                      > Spencer<br>
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                      > Sent from my iPhone<br>
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                      >> On Aug 25, 2021, at 10:35 PM, John Hall
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                      wrote:<br>
                      >><br>
                      >> Got what I hope is a simple question. On
                      my IH 454 tractor, is the voltage going to the
                      coil a constant 12V? I'm having some issues with
                      it running bad when it gets hot (I've already
                      replaced everything but the plug wires). Found out
                      today that if I run a jumper wire from battery to
                      the coil, the problem goes away. Take it off
                      problem comes back, put it back it goes away, take
                      it off, it comes back. So I am tracing the wiring
                      but this one isn't simple, new enough there are
                      tons of gauges, fuel solenoids, safety switches,
                      etc. Anyway, if I check voltage at the coil, the
                      fuel solenoid, and there is one small terminal on
                      starter solenoid that all read 12V if the switch
                      is on. If I bump the engine over slightly (I guess
                      the pts are closing) then the coil and starter
                      drop to just under 6V, fuel solenoid stays the
                      same. So shouldn't there always be 12V at the
                      coil?<br>
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                      >> John Hall<br>
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