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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/26/2021 2:45 PM, Carl Szabelski
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        <div>Did a quick search and found these two links. Hope they
          help to understand how coils function.</div>
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        <div>Carl</div>
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          On Thursday, August 26, 2021, Howard Pletcher <<a
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                style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I would
                concentrate on the coil first.  Defective new ones are
                not unheard of.  Have you got another vehicle--tractor
                or car or truck--that you could swap with. Any that has
                6V to the coil when running should work.  If it won't
                fit your mounting, just secure it temporarily, be sure
                the case is well grounded, and see what happens as it
                runs for a time.  And you can test the one from the
                tractor in the donor vehicle.</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at
                11:54 PM John Hall <<a
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                <div> Ordered coil from CaseIH by the parts book is all
                  I know. I have the same issue with either coil. After
                  reading about ignition systems, it seems resistors are
                  used in a different circuit for once engine is
                  running, voltage is dropped so as not to burn points.
                  12 volts are sent for cranking only. I'm wondering if
                  there is a resistor somewhere thats failing when it
                  gets hot?<br>
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                  John Hall<br>
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                  <div>On 8/25/2021 11:21 PM, Howard Pletcher wrote:<br>
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                        style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Is that
                        the original coil?</div>
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                        style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I'm not
                        familiar with the 454, but in the truck world,
                        most coils are intended for 6V use.  There is a
                        resistor wire in the harness that drops the
                        voltage while the current is flowing with the
                        points closed.  But there are also coils
                        intended for 12V use with no resistor wire.  If
                        that is not the original coil, perhaps you have
                        the wrong one.</div>
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                        style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Since it
                        seems to work fine with 12V applied, I'd
                        probably run another wire from the ignition
                        switch to the coil to bypass any possible
                        resistor wire.</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 25,
                        2021 at 11:08 PM John Hall <<a
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                        If there is, I can't find it. Closes thing I
                        have found is the <br>
                        diode/rectifier for the alternator. Its inline
                        and is tied in on this <br>
                        particular "circuit" . Matter of fact, the side
                        opposite the alternator <br>
                        is where the fuel solenoid feeds from.<br>
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                        John Hall<br>
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                        On 8/25/2021 11:05 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:<br>
                        > Maybe there’s an external resistor?<br>
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                        > Spencer<br>
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                        > Sent from my iPhone<br>
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                        >> On Aug 25, 2021, at 10:35 PM, John Hall
                        <<a href="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com"
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                        >><br>
                        >> Got what I hope is a simple question.
                        On my IH 454 tractor, is the voltage going to
                        the coil a constant 12V? I'm having some issues
                        with it running bad when it gets hot (I've
                        already replaced everything but the plug wires).
                        Found out today that if I run a jumper wire from
                        battery to the coil, the problem goes away. Take
                        it off problem comes back, put it back it goes
                        away, take it off, it comes back. So I am
                        tracing the wiring but this one isn't simple,
                        new enough there are tons of gauges, fuel
                        solenoids, safety switches, etc. Anyway, if I
                        check voltage at the coil, the fuel solenoid,
                        and there is one small terminal on starter
                        solenoid that all read 12V if the switch is on.
                        If I bump the engine over slightly (I guess the
                        pts are closing) then the coil and starter drop
                        to just under 6V, fuel solenoid stays the same.
                        So shouldn't there always be 12V at the coil?<br>
                        >><br>
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