<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Indiana Robinson took us down memory lane a bit with his article---I still define one of my major steps toward manhood -- I was around 10 years old--my grandfather had an old JD G---'37 or '39, don't remember which. Anyway, I had tried and tried for ages to get that thing started, and one day I did!!! I recall that I scooted right under the tractor to close the pulley side petcock---and if my memory serves me, the two row cultivator was mounted, making that even more difficult. I can imagine me crawling under something like that today!!! HA!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">In any case, Thanks!! for the memories!</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 8:46 AM Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Here is a link to a short article I sold to Yesterday's Tractors way back in the 1990's I believe. I was only about 7 when it happened (late 1940's) but I still recall it clearly. Just don't ask me what I ate for breakfast this morning...</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint46.htm" target="_blank">https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/articles/artint46.htm</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 4:38 AM Jim Becker <<a href="mailto:mr.jebecker@gmail.com" target="_blank">mr.jebecker@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="deanvp@att.net">Dean VP</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:10 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Tractor Lightning Strike?</div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are stories of tractors starting on their own
(supposedly Non-lightening related) when parked in gear on a slope. Two friends
of mine and I were hauling several garden tractors from an antique tractor show
in Cottonwood, AZ to Apache Junction and along the way we stopped at a Rest Stop
not too far down 17 and discovered one of the Garden Tractor engines had started
running by itself. We all three verified they ALL had been shut down upon
loading and being tied down. The engine was very happy just idling away. .
Have not figured that one out to this day. And BTW none of us had been drinking.
No lightning strikes either that we are aware of. We did believe
that it was possible the ignition switch may have been left on. But how
did it start? IF it was in gear causing it to start due to starting and stopping
of the trailer why did it come out of gear after it started? It was not in gear
when we found it with the engine idling. We also determined that the tie downs
were tight as can be. One of our little mysteries we talk about
occasionally usually requiring us to make more shim stock.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
misery."<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT <<a href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Spencer Yost<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:14
PM<br><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Tractor
Lightning Strike?<u></u><u></u></p></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lightning struck my shop while I was in the office in the
house next to the shop. I had just finished the shop and nothing was in it
except a halogen light stand and some tools and materials as I was finishing up
some small details ; preparing to move everything in.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It did two things. First was, it tripped a GFCI receptacle in
the shop You would expect that right? Except it was the
courtesy GFCI receptacle on the halogen light stand (not part of the building
circuit) and that stand was NOT plugged in at all. Figured that out the
next day when I tried to plug in a drill to the light stand. The next
thing it did was to turn on my flatbed scanner - like I had hit the button on
the front to take a scan. It took a very nice scan of an empty bed. By the
way it was so close to me all I heard was a concussion, not really a thunder
clap and all I saw was blue light around me. Pretty
spooky.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If anyone wants proof, I will take a picture of the burn mark
where the strike must’ve hit the peak of the roof and ran in on a flood light to
ground. It left a burn mark on the vinyl soffit as it traveled from the
gutter across the soffit to the flood light. It is there to this
day. It’s also the only flood light whose base has rusted.
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<p class="MsoNormal">So yes - inductive current was generated in two devices in
the only lightning strike I was involved it. So that’s a real
thing.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:30 PM,
Steve Offiler <<a>soffiler@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx Cecil, and Jim B as well... pointing out that
lightning can induce current in solenoids. I was going with more of a
melted insulation/shorting hypothesis, but I’m equally inclined to believe the
induction hypothesis. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On Jul 13, 2021, at 6:03 PM,
Cecil Bearden <<a>crbearden@copper.net</a>>
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<p>Lightning struck a light pole near my Arctic 366 ATV and stuck the winch
relay pulling the cable so tight on the drum it had to be cut out, and ran
the battery down and 2 weeks later the battery had to be replaced it was
only 3 months old.. Lightning will do strange
things...<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Cecil<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/13/2021 9:48 AM, Carl Szabelski
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<p class="MsoNormal">If it was a lightning strike, there should be some
evidence of lightning hitting the tractor. The starter wire should also
show a short that allowed the starter to engage. Also, if the starter was
engaged due to a short, I would imagine that it was engaged all the time
the engine was running and is possibly burned out from being engaged for
so long. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had the H take off on me once when I tried to do a
start and realized that the battery was dead. I connected the jumper
cables before before putting it in neutral and as soon as I made the last
connection, off it went. Had to jump on while it started heading for the
pond. Turns out that I left the kill switch off from the previous start
attempt and the starter switch had also stuck in the closed position from
the previous start attempt. So when I made the last jumper cable
connection, the starter kicked in and off it went. Didn’t realize the
starter switch was stuck in the on position until I made the next jumper
cable connection, this time in neutral with the kill switch on, and heard
the starter engage and run. So it is possible for a tractor to take off if
it’s in gear with the kill switch off, and the starter is somehow engaged.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Carl<br><br>On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, Stephen Offiler
<<a>soffiler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure who can see this, but I hope it is
available to the general public, whether you have a Facebook account or
not... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/soffiler/posts/10225960016456420" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/soffiler/posts/10225960016456420</a><u></u><u></u></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not MY tractor. It's on my Facebook page
because I'm sharing it. You can read commentary from the owner,
Lapsley Orchard, and you can also see what I came up with. I am
really curious to hear input from ATIS members.<u></u><u></u></p></div>
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