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<DIV>My father once reported on a guy that had a hand-crank Model T. He
had Knack for shutting it off in such a way that he could usually get in
and start it by pulling the spark advance. I’m sure it only worked if the
engine had been very recently running so it had with some fuel in the
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<DIV>Jim Becker</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=robinson46176@gmail.com>Indiana Robinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:46 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=at@lists.antique-tractor.com>Antique Tractor Email
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] Tractor Lightning Strike?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Here is a link to a short article I sold to Yesterday's Tractors way back
in the 1990's I believe. I was only about 7 when it happened (late 1940's) but I
still recall it clearly. Just don't ask me what I ate for breakfast this
morning...</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 4:38 AM Jim Becker
<<A>mr.jebecker@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=deanvp@att.net>Dean VP</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:10 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=at@lists.antique-tractor.com>'Antique Tractor Email
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] Tractor Lightning Strike?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>There are stories of tractors starting on their own
(supposedly Non-lightening related) when parked in gear on a slope. Two
friends of mine and I were hauling several garden tractors from an antique
tractor show in Cottonwood, AZ to Apache Junction and along the way we stopped
at a Rest Stop not too far down 17 and discovered one of the Garden Tractor
engines had started running by itself. We all three verified they ALL had been
shut down upon loading and being tied down. The engine was very happy just
idling away. . Have not figured that one out to this day. And BTW none
of us had been drinking. No lightning strikes either that we are aware
of. We did believe that it was possible the ignition switch may
have been left on. But how did it start? IF it was in gear causing it to
start due to starting and stopping of the trailer why did it come out of gear
after it started? It was not in gear when we found it with the engine idling.
We also determined that the tie downs were tight as can be. One of our
little mysteries we talk about occasionally usually requiring us to make more
shim stock.<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Dean VP<U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Snohomish, WA 98290<U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
misery."<U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>..Winston Churchill...<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> AT <<A
target=_blank>at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</A>> <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Spencer Yost<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<A
target=_blank>at@lists.antique-tractor.com</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT]
Tractor Lightning Strike?<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Lightning struck my shop while I was in the office in the
house next to the shop. I had just finished the shop and nothing was in
it except a halogen light stand and some tools and materials as I was
finishing up some small details ; preparing to move everything
in.<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>It did two things. First was, it tripped a GFCI receptacle
in the shop You would expect that right? Except it was the
courtesy GFCI receptacle on the halogen light stand (not part of the building
circuit) and that stand was NOT plugged in at all. Figured that out the
next day when I tried to plug in a drill to the light stand. The next
thing it did was to turn on my flatbed scanner - like I had hit the button on
the front to take a scan. It took a very nice scan of an empty bed. By
the way it was so close to me all I heard was a concussion, not really a
thunder clap and all I saw was blue light around me. Pretty
spooky.<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>If anyone wants proof, I will take a picture of the burn
mark where the strike must’ve hit the peak of the roof and ran in on a flood
light to ground. It left a burn mark on the vinyl soffit as it traveled
from the gutter across the soffit to the flood light. It is there
to this day. It’s also the only flood light whose base has
rusted. <U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>So yes - inductive current was generated in two devices in
the only lightning strike I was involved it. So that’s a real
thing.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:30 PM,
Steve Offiler <<A>soffiler@gmail.com</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thx Cecil, and Jim B as well... pointing out that
lightning can induce current in solenoids. I was going with more of a
melted insulation/shorting hypothesis, but I’m equally inclined to believe
the induction hypothesis. <U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">On Jul 13, 2021, at 6:03
PM, Cecil Bearden <<A>crbearden@copper.net</A>>
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<P>Lightning struck a light pole near my Arctic 366 ATV and stuck the
winch relay pulling the cable so tight on the drum it had to be cut out,
and ran the battery down and 2 weeks later the battery had to be replaced
it was only 3 months old.. Lightning will do strange
things...<U></U><U></U></P>
<P>Cecil<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 7/13/2021 9:48 AM, Carl Szabelski
wrote:<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>If it was a lightning strike, there should be some
evidence of lightning hitting the tractor. The starter wire should also
show a short that allowed the starter to engage. Also, if the starter
was engaged due to a short, I would imagine that it was engaged all the
time the engine was running and is possibly burned out from being
engaged for so long. <U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I had the H take off on me once when I tried to do a
start and realized that the battery was dead. I connected the jumper
cables before before putting it in neutral and as soon as I made the
last connection, off it went. Had to jump on while it started heading
for the pond. Turns out that I left the kill switch off from the
previous start attempt and the starter switch had also stuck in the
closed position from the previous start attempt. So when I made the last
jumper cable connection, the starter kicked in and off it went. Didn’t
realize the starter switch was stuck in the on position until I made the
next jumper cable connection, this time in neutral with the kill switch
on, and heard the starter engage and run. So it is possible for a
tractor to take off if it’s in gear with the kill switch off, and the
starter is somehow engaged. <U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Carl<BR><BR>On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, Stephen
Offiler <<A>soffiler@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I'm not sure who can see this, but I hope it is
available to the general public, whether you have a Facebook account
or not... <U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><A
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target=_blank>https://www.facebook.com/soffiler/posts/10225960016456420</A><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Not MY tractor. It's on my Facebook page
because I'm sharing it. You can read commentary from the owner,
Lapsley Orchard, and you can also see what I came up with. I am
really curious to hear input from ATIS
members.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Steve O.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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