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    <p>I agree Dean. not wanting to start anything political, but I
      think we need to take care of ourselves first.  Nothing good will
      come out of this big housing boom we are experiencing in my area. 
      I know that by the time I can get my 80 acres ready for sale and
      move to my other farm, the prices will be at the lowest in
      history.  It always works that way.  By the time I was ready to
      scrap a lot of metal around here, the scrap steel prices went down
      to nothing.  Old cars are up to $200/ton here now...  <br>
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    <p>Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/22/2021 11:20 AM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Bill,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Being on the West Coast close to a major
          port city for over 40 years I’ve been fully aware of how much
          of our WA products gets shipped to the Far East such as our
          lumber and Apples.  And have become accustomed to that trade
          as normal.  What I guess I didn’t make clear is I have never
          seen the lumber quantity being shipped to the Far East this
          large and found it a bit of an oxymoron  that it would occur
          at the same time as we were having a domestic lumber
          shortage.  Not taking care of our own domestic needs first  is
          what I was describing as “SUM TING WONG”.   Especially when
          the recipient is China who is not an ally but an enemy. But I
          guess that is the current political/government policy. I will
          attach the same moniker to that policy “SUM TING WONG”<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
            virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On Behalf
                Of </b>Bill Bruer<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 22, 2021 8:07 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dean,
                  what you are seeing at the mills has been going on
                  since the end of WW II.  The government’s efforts at
                  rebuilding Japan escalated into a regular market
                  causing a constant stream of lumber going to the far
                  East.  That market is now, of course, dominated by
                  China.  My family were wholesale building materials
                  distributors and sort of specialized in west coast
                  lumber for the middle Tennessee area.  I grew up
                  listening to complaints about how our lumber prices
                  were determined by whatever they were paying at any
                  given time.  My wife and I took an Alaska cruise in
                  1990 and saw shiploads of lumber in each port we
                  visited, all going to that Eastern market.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">There
                  are now reports of timber thefts here.  The tree of
                  choice is white oak.  White oak is primarily used for
                  making whiskey barrels.  Demand is surging.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Bill
                  Bruer<br>
                  Murfreesboro, TN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
                        <a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
                          title="deanvp@att.net" moz-do-not-send="true">Dean
                          VP</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
                        Saturday, May 22, 2021 1:42 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></b><span
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                        <a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                          title="at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">'Antique Tractor Email
                          Discussion Group'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
                        Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge inventory<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">This isn’t
                  that complex relative to Sum Ting Wong.  With the
                  current demand outstripping supply here in the NW
                  sawmills can name their price which would be far and
                  away exceeding any contractual price they have with
                  overseas customers. The SUM Ting Wong problem is the
                  lack of Greed. Or loyalty to local NW customers who
                  will pay more.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Snohomish,
                  WA 98290<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"Socialism
                  is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
                  and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal
                  sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">..Winston
                  Churchill...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
                    style="color:black"> AT <<a
                      href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Offiler<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 21, 2021 5:04 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
                    <<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Local sawmill with huge
                    inventory<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">If I'm
                    the owner of that sawmill and the Chinese are
                    outbidding domestic buyers, I'm probably taking the
                    Capitalist route and selling to the highest bidder. 
                    Not that I have any real idea what's going on, but
                    I'm just running off the K.I.S.S. principle, and
                    that makes sense to me.  Not sure what kind of
                    conspiracy would have to be playing out if there's
                    Sum Ting Wong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">SO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Fri,
                      May 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM deanvp <<a
                        href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">You
                          may recall I recently was stunned to see more
                          inventory of cut lumber at a local saw mill
                          than I had seen in years.  It just totally was
                          inconsistent with the lumber shortage vs
                          demand driving up prices of lumber by unheard
                          of percentages.  Well, I learned a little bit
                          more about this inventory of lumber.  It is
                          not for domestic consumption.  It is headed
                          for China.  How does that float your boat?  It
                          really, really  **&^%#'s me off. Sum ting
                          Wong.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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