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Dean, I have an area that I need to smooth out, if it ever stops
raining, here in Michigan, I'll show before and after pics of what
the TSC harrow will do. Hopefully that will help with decision.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Mike M<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/9/2021 12:32 AM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think I’m going to crawl, walk, run into
the solution to my problem. I found a piece of truss plow
beam that is about 40 to 45” long and it is really heavy. I
think I’ll attach some chain connections on the bar and pull
that behind the Garden Tractor when I mow and see what that
does to the mole ands pocket gopher mounds. Since those are
loose dirt it should scatter those pretty well. I knock them
down with the mower deck a bit before I mow anyway. The bar
won’t move hard ground but the impression I’m getting the
chain harrow won’t either. Then I might try the hurricane
fence and cinder blocks. I think what I am being told is the
chain harrow doesn’t really work well on hard ground. Even
though our ground will remain wet for at least two more
months. The one attribute I do like about the chain harrow is
it’s dethatching attributes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 7, 2021 7:52 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hey Dean, I
think people call different implements by different names
around the country. I have always called this implement just a
disc, no spinning blades. This implement would loosen the soil
and then a drag would put a polish in it. I use extra railroad
ties for weight, they are very heavy. It will still flex, but
gives it more digging power. It will still bounce over the
rocks. We live in a very rocky area, and the only time I've
rocks pulled up is with an Ag sized tractors. I've had my drag
for 10 years now, and I think you wouldn't be satisfied,
depending on your soil type. Option #2 do you have any people
around you that cut hay? I used to cut about 10 acres with a
bush hog. Found a guy with a cattle operation, and he came in,
worked it up, got rid of the rocks and hayed it. Gave it to
him for free, for doing the work, and I saved hours, and the
hay went to good use.<br>
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<a href="https://youtu.be/vsc6coGeB7s" moz-do-not-send="true">https://youtu.be/vsc6coGeB7s</a><br>
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Mike M<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/7/2021 5:55 PM, Dean VP wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx for the feedback. How and where do
you place the weight on something that is so flexible.?
IMHO a disc harrow is out of the question due to how many
rocks it would dig up. I may have an impossible objective.
Level and smooth the surface but don’t disturb the rocks. At
least don’t bring the bigger ones to the surface. Rocks and
spinning mower blades are not compatible. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Dean,<br>
I have a 6x8 version of the exact drag you posted. . I've
used it to smooth my gravel driveway, I've used it to smooth
our sand arena, and our paddock and round pen. There were
times I had add weight, 200 to 300 lbs so it would deeper.
For the paddock and round pen, I did not need the weight and
I could pull it with my garden tractor, although it worked
the crap out of it.For the sand arena I needed 4x4 because
of depth of the sand. Depending on your soil type it may
work, but their is no guarantee. IMHO a disc harrow would be
better.<br>
<br>
Mike M<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you guys think of this unit
from Tractor Supply at $259 and then attaching a 4’ heavy
plow beam section at the tail end to create more down
pressure due to added tension and smooth things out a bit
after the teeth do their job? I would then just drag this
behind the Garden Tractor when I mowed. I don’t think the
drag rake by itself would do the job but adding the heavy
plow beam at the tail end might help quite a bit. A
longer tow chain might reduce the tendency to lift the
front of the drag harrow too. Worst case one could add
weight on top but I don’t see how that weight gets
distributed very well with a chain drag. See URL Link
below:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/yard-tuff-4-ft-x-4-ft-heavy-duty-drag-harrow"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/yard-tuff-4-ft-x-4-ft-heavy-duty-drag-harrow</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This can be purchased elsewhere for
$239 but then $70 to $80 freight is added. At $259 at TSC
is gets delivered to the store. That is only 7 ½ miles
away for me. Haven’t found anything that beats that yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS, I was thinking of pulling my water
filled barrel roller behind this to push the loosened rock
back into the ground but that is too heavy and cumbersome
I think <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span> And would not work
very good going down hill. <span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI
Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
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failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its
inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One thing there is no shortage of here
is tractors. They range from Garden Tractors, to Compact
Tractors to a 720 Diesel John Deere. I do have about a 12’
section of pretty heavy channel iron that I use to level
dirt but since it is ridged I don’t think it would work
very good in the pasture, but I suppose if I went in
enough directions it might get most of the mounds. Maybe
I could just drag it behind the Garden Tractor every time
I mow. I don’t see how it could make things worse.
Hmmm, I’m starting to warm up to this idea. Maybe I
could attach some weights to it too. Need to see if the
messes up the mowing that the channel iron has been drug
over before I get to mowing it. Wonder if there is a way
to offset it. Hmmmm, this could get intelesting. May not
work if it drags the loose clippings too much. What if I
just drug a heavy beam the width of the mower deck. That
would at least knock down the Mole and Pocket Gopher
mounds a bit. At least doing it the same time I mow would
eliminate duplicate trips over the field. Intelesting.
Could drag a drag a 4’ wide 8’ long section drag harrow
behind while mowing too. Need to have something that
weighs enough to not bounce around on top.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You likely do not a big enough
tractor. This what we did when we moved a house across
the hay meadow in winter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We were left with deep ruts. The
truck bogged down for two weeks. Finally got truck and
house out in on the pad.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We had huge massy Ferguson tractor
and a 30 foot length of heavy railroad rail with a loop
of heavy chain welded to both ends. Hooked the tractor
to the center of the chain and drug it over the ruts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That one looks very similar to
the one I spent many an hour dragging <br>
around the farm as a teenager - ours resembled two
of these (12' wide) <br>
ganged together. My dad believed it did an adequate
job...<br>
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Mark J<br>
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On 5/4/2021 11:39 PM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
> Here is one that looks interesting. Not sure if
it has adequate pin density<br>
><br>
> <a
href="https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/loyal-drag-harrow-6-ft-x-8-ft"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/loyal-drag-harrow-6-ft-x-8-ft</a><br>
><br>
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> Dean VP<br>
> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the
creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<br>
> ..Winston Churchill...<br>
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???<br>
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> Spencer,<br>
><br>
> That is it. Drag or chain harrow is the name
that seems to work here too. Haven't found a single
used one for sale yet. Tractor Supply and Northern
Tool have some that might be worth looking at. I
wonder if the rental yards have them. That would be
a way to test to see how it works before purchasing.<br>
><br>
> Dean VP<br>
> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the
creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<br>
> ..Winston Churchill...<br>
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???<br>
><br>
> Drag harrow is what I think they’re called
mainly around the country. I hear “chain harrow”
around here more frequently. It’s probably your
only option if you’re trying your best not to
disturb more than an inch or two down and also not
kill half your grass.<br>
><br>
> I can’t even think of anything else that would
do the job yet also leave stones unturned.<br>
><br>
> I use it after disking to create a better seed
bed and also in my pasture to de-thatch and scarify
the surface after plugging but before fertilizing,
seeding and spreading compost.<br>
><br>
> PS: this is the type of implement that people
often buy for a single reseeding project and then
resell. I’ll bet some chain harrows have had dozens
of owners. So check Craigslist.<br>
><br>
> Spencer<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
>> On May 4, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Dean VP <<a
href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
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>><br>
>> I have 6 acres that I mow with my Garden
tractor 3 of which is a<br>
>> pasture on a slope which at one time had
horses on it. Now I try to<br>
>> keep the pasture looking nice by mowing it
with my Garden Tractor<br>
>> albeit at a slightly higher cut than the
rest of the regular lawn. The<br>
>> last couple of years the pasture has gotten
really rough from multiple<br>
>> sources including our not so friendly Moles
and pocket gophers. There<br>
>> are several old growth stumps buried in the
pasture which was well<br>
>> done except will the dirt fill occurs it
doesn't completely fill all<br>
>> around the stump down below. So over time
and our incessant rain some<br>
>> settling occurs and even some small occur.
I try to fill the gaps<br>
>> with dirt as I find them but each year 2 or
3 more show up. So bottom<br>
>> line is the pasture has gotten rough and
beats the crap out of me when I mow it. I would like
to use a tool to try to smooth it out a bit and<br>
>> thatching the grass mat in places would not
be a bad thing. But our soil<br>
>> is terrible and at best could described as
glacial till filled with various<br>
>> sized rocks. So I really don't want to
disturb the rocks too much since I<br>
>> have to mow it later. So I want to smooth
the soil out, not disturb it too<br>
>> much. Known as a quandary.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm thinking about acquiring pasture rake
or drag with short teeth on<br>
>> it to work the top couple inches or so and
try to smooth out the mole and gopher<br>
>> mounds which I have manually knocked down a
bit prior to mowing, I have no<br>
>> experience with a pasture type rake. I
have experience with a spiked<br>
>> toothed drag we used on the farm in NW
Iowa. But that was used to<br>
>> smooth out loose ground in preparation for
planting corn or soy<br>
>> beans. That isn't what I need. I think I
need maybe 4 4' square<br>
>> flexible sections that can flex with the
varying terrain and catch the<br>
>> low as well as high spots. I think I can
pull an 8' 8' unit with my 20<br>
>> to 22 HP Garden tractors. I'm more
concerned about traction but I can<br>
>> put chains on if necessary. I'm thinking I
would want to take several<br>
>> passes at various different directions.
And hopefully I could use this same implement to
dethatch the rest of the lawn.<br>
>><br>
>> Some of you surely have experience with
something like what I need.<br>
>> What do I need? What are it's critical
attributes? Where do I buy it?<br>
>> I do live in Horse country so there are a
few stores that cater to<br>
>> horse owners and of course I have Tractor
Supply, Lowes, Home Dept,<br>
>> Grainger, etc. and ???/<br>
>><br>
>> I'm looking forward to being educated.<br>
>><br>
>> Dean VP<br>
>> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the
creed of ignorance, and<br>
>> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
equal sharing of misery."<br>
>> ..Winston Churchill...<br>
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