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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">Linux is good for some tasks such as
surfing the internet, checking email, some software programs made for linux and
some few<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">Windows programs that can be run under
Wine. TurboTax is not one of these. It will only install on Windows
10.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> AT
[mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>cgs<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 19, 2021
9:39 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> at@lists.antique-tractor.com<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AT] OT-Windows 10</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="5" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Being some what a coward
(and wanting value for cost) I use Linux which costs <i><span style="font-style:
italic">no</span></i> $$$ and offers <i><span style="font-style:italic">fewer</span></i>
heartaches.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt">On 2/19/21 10:17 AM, William Parris wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">Just tried to do an in-place upgrade from
Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Pro 20H2 on my friend’s Dell Inspiron laptop.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">After the upgrade, the laptop screen is
black and cannot be made to work. The laptop works on an external monitor.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">I just tried to upgrade a Dell Optiplex
workstation running Windows 10 2004 to Windows 10 20H2. This also
failed. I’ve<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">never had a Windows 10 version upgrade fail
and neither has my brother who has his own IT company.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">That is why before I do anything like this,
I do an image of the system using Active@ Disk Image. That way, if I have
a failure<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">for whatever reason, I can restore the
system to what it was before. It’s better to be safe than
sorry. Of course I could have<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">done a fresh installation of Windows 7 on
the laptop and Windows 10 2004 on the desktop workstation, but all of the
programs<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">and files would have been lost. If
the system is not running, you can’t roll it back to the previous version
of Windows.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">I always assume that if anything can go
wrong, it has a good chance of doing it. It’s too late to close the
barn door after the horse is out.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mogrits<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 18, 2021
9:21 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Antique Tractor Email
Discussion Group<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AT] OT-Windows 10</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">No worries Mike, just "let it rip". If it offers you a chance
to save a restore point back to whatever version you have now let it do that
but as I recall the Windows 10 upgrade automatically saves that restore point.
Once you have it installed and it boots up reliably, run that open shell file
and I think you will be well pleased.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Unrelated to the open shell interface, Windows 10 will want to
download and install new drivers for whatever hardware you have. At this
point you should have no worries since 10 has been around so long. But it could
take Windows a week of intermittent updates to get all these done.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:39 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">OK, so last night I
downloaded windows 10, I have not installed it yet. Is there anything I should
know or do before hitting the install button. I've already downloaded Open
Shell, I'm just not sure what to expect, when I click the button. <br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike M <u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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PM, William Parris wrote:<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:blue">Classic Shell has been abandoned and is not being developed.
It has been taken over by others and is now called Open Shell. This is
based on the original Classic Shell.</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:blue">You definitely want to install Open Shell and tweak it to the
Windows start menu style you like best. It is much easier than using the
native Windows 10 start menu. </span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> AT [<a href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mogrits<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 16, 2021
8:04 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Antique Tractor Email
Discussion Group<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AT] OT-Windows 10</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I second Dan
Glass' comment. BEFORE installing Windows 10 download to the desktop the free
add-on "Windows Classicshell" by searching those keywords. Get the
latest version you can find. I say download before because I found it very
difficult to navigate in Windows 10 to the point I had trouble even opening a
browser window. I said download to the desktop so you can actually find it
under Windows 10.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">After the Windows
10 is installed then run the classic shell install file you downloaded. Once
it's installed you can set classic shell to run just like any version back to
Windows XP. I think the simplest way is to open classic shell and select the
"Start Menu" Tab. You can customize it a lot but it's not necessary
to do so. Just set it back to the version you liked and it's business as usual.<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Tue, Feb 16,
2021 at 8:54 AM Dan Glass <<a href="mailto:danglass@usa.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">danglass@usa.com</a>> wrote:<u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="1" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Download
Classic Shell and it makes Windows 10 look and act like Windows 7. I have
used it since Window 10 came out with no problems. </span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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2:39 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> "Mike M" <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> "Antique tractor
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [AT] OT-Windows 10</span></font><u5:p></u5:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="1" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Has
anyone here been able to download windows 10, and have it act like<br>
windows 7? I love my windows 7, but it its not compatible with the<br>
current tax preparation software Turbo-tax.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike M<br>
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