<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>I don’t think the guy is motivated to mislead me, so when he said they’re all in good shape, complete and well restored I took him at his word. The pics seem to back him up on this. And I always couch my reply in caveats so that there’s no misunderstanding.</div><div><br></div><div>I wasn’t asking for any kind of professional opinion with an exact number, I was really curious about opinions you folks have as to what’s something like these tractors worth(ballpark) in your neck of the woods (again taking the info at face value and that they are reasonably well restored and running)? I know there’s some details missing and we do not have all the information. But seeing the pics of his shop and the tractors they probably don’t lack for much.</div><div><br></div><div>I was also hoping to generate some discussion as to how the pandemic and the prevalence of online options may be affecting values in your area.</div><div><br></div><div>I was really just looking for some rough info like Dave’s (drgerber) original post (Which I appreciate-thanks!).</div><div><br></div><div>PS. I did find out in a subsequent email that if an auction takes place in person it will be in Roxboro North Carolina - a good ways NW of Raleigh.</div><div><br></div><div>Spencer </div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:26 PM, drgerber@bright.net wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">I would agree with Dean entirely. Hard to tell unless you hear each one run, drive it around, etc. I was under the impression that they were “properly restored”. Even one that is professionally restored still need the bugs worked out. So, hope they are well restored and bring the family the desired results.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Dave in Ohio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Becker<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 18, 2020 8:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Something to do<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dean really said it all here. These thoughts (and maybe the words, verbatim) should be included with any reply to a “what’s it worth” email.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">As to this batch of tractors, a few observations. They definitely have, or had oil in them. Oil absorbing mats can be seen in a few places, as can some oil puddles. Look under the transmission of the 40. Looking at the Cub, I see some lack of attention to detail. The decals used are at least 10 years worth of wrong for the apparent age of tractor. Maybe they bought decals based on the serial number and the serial number is older than a bunch of the parts. Maybe it is a Heinz 57. I also note several points of sloppiness in the wiring. Likewise, the Super A has a bunch of black paint that doesn’t belong there. I can’t speak to anything about the John Deeres, other than what is obvious to anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Don’t get me wrong. They are nice looking tractors that would show well. But the bottom line is still, don’t confuse an overly shiny paint job with a first class restoration that would command a high price.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jim Becker<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Dean VP <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Friday, September 18, 2020 4:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Re: [AT] Something to do<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">After getting fooled by some antique tractors which looked really good but in reality needed a huge amount of mechanical work I think it would be unwise to make guesses as to value. I have no valid reason to doubt that these have been both mechanically as well as cosmetically restored bujt…. And with no leaks on the floor either says they have been meticulously restored or they have no fluid in them. BUT…. Have they been mechanically restored as well as cosmetically restored? We don’t know the answer to those questions. Without knowing that answer any value placed on them would be very dangerous. The real problem with cosmetic only restoration is the cosmetic restoration usually gets damaged doing the mechanical restauration later an d then a new cosmetic restoration is required. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Look like pretty good cosmetic restorations but….. Without further information I would place a value quite low to protect against potential future expense. AND… that might be unfair to the family.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">..Winston Churchill...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>AT mailing list</span><br><span>AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</span><br><span>http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>