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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I wear a mask also. It is a PIA. but I am one of the ones that could have bad outcomes from the Zombie Apolitze so why not. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I believe if everyone would follow the simple rules this thing could die down and save a lot of lives. It will not completely go away until a vaccine is developed. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">People need to be able to go back to work.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The same thing happened during the FLUE pandemic. People refused to wear masks. Americans hate to be told what to do. :-}<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, August 15, 2020, 7:42:43 AM CDT, cgs <oxygenfarm@gmail.com> wrote:
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<font size="+1">Hey, guys, can't we cool off the rhetoric?<br clear="none">
Accept that there are good people who refuse/decline to do simple
things which might help prevent big problems.<br clear="none">
I wear a mask, because why the hell not? I recently met with an
Amish man who asked why I was carrying a mask, ready to put it on.
I told him I'm healthy but am willing to look like a Halloween
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<div class="ydp71075d49yiv0608039044yqt6517033736" id="ydp71075d49yiv0608039044yqtfd89776"><div class="ydp71075d49yiv0608039044moz-cite-prefix">On 8/14/20 11:40 PM, Mogrits wrote:<br clear="none">
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openly, apparently) can say what you want. The largest virus in
the world is much much smaller than the smallest bacteria known.
Medical masks can block bacteria in some cases but do not block
viruses. Virus transmission is not the intent of a surgical
mask. Don't even begin on what these paper masks and cloth masks
prevent.
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<div>You in essence just called me stupid. Too bad you come to
that. History will sort this out. You won't like the result
when your country reopens and covid somehow re-emerges in your
country after it subsides everywhere else.</div>
<div>Warren</div>
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<div class="ydp71075d49yiv0608039044gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:02
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<p>I do think at 2 cents, you've over-valued your opinion.<br clear="none">
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<p>As someone on the listed mailed me: "Americans suffer
from two virus, Covid-19 and stupidity."<br clear="none">
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<p>A poll out today, (Fox New) yielded 74% of Americans
desire a National Mask Mandate.<br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite">On 14 August 2020 at 15:18 Mogrits
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<div>I'm sorry to hear of your loss and potential future
loss of friends and family. I agree with the member
that said in so many words "enough is enough, that
ATIS is a place to read without all this garbage."</div>
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<div>That said, I have two cents to offer: Barely any of
what we hear about this is true or settled. People
have died, but they die of the flu every year. How
many months now has the death toll been between
150,000-160,000? It's been a while. The virus has
about burned itself out in the USA. It may come back
in the winter, or it may not. Who knows. The one
certainty is the hysteria about it will CEASE on Nov
3rd regardless of what's happening with caseloads.</div>
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<div>No offense to the respondent from New Zealand, but
theirs is not a response to be emulated. You cannot
hide from a virus. Other countries will be well and
done with Covid 19 and NZ will become a new hotspot
once they relax restrictions.</div>
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<div>Young folks figured out early on they have
negligible risk and rightfully so. That's why they
went on Spring Breaks and the other nonsense of youth
months ago- it does not infect or at least affect
them. So far there is not one case of a public school
aged child transmitting to an adult and any youth aged
Covid death is suspect at best. Teachers Unions are
now holding this Country hostage and by extension it's
economy by keeping parents out of work. </div>
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<div>My personal opinion is if you have so much
confidence in the stupid paper or even worse, cloth
mask then you wear your mask and protect yourself.
These cheap pieces of garbage take droplets which
don't travel far due to weight and aerosalize them
where they go much farther. Don't tie a bandanna on
your face and tell me you are "preventing the spread".
That is just silly. Same with any other cloth or paper
mask. Nothing but social conditioning for an illness
with a high 90% survival rate. Does not minimize the
losses but does not justify hysteria.</div>
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<div>And that's enough for me,</div>
<div>Warren</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:18 PM Jim Becker
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<div>I thought it was a big upgrade when I got
to go from a blackboard to a whiteboard. And
that wasn’t an electronic whiteboard, just one
that let us use erasable dry markers rather
than chalk. I still have my chalk chuck. I
use it in the shop to make timing marks easier
to see.</div>
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<div><strong>From:</strong> <a shape="rect">Mark Johnson</a>
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<div><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday,
August 06, 2020 1:48 PM</div>
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<div><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [AT]
[External] Re: Covid-19</div>
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<p>These days, a teacher, especially at the
college level, darn near needs an
associate's degree in Electrical Technology
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<p>I had enough trouble, 10 years back, as an
adjunct instructor, just dealing with the
electronic whiteboard in a small
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<div>On 8/6/2020 1:05 PM, Gunnells, Brad R
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Hahaha..well
I'm not sure it's really a thing. It was
easier to say that then to say the
installed computers, switchers, cameras,
microphones, etc, etc.</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);"> </div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">It's
surprising how complex some of these
systems are. Multiple monitors, multiple
projectors that show different inputs,
software to record it all for later
learning.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Brad</div>
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<strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, August
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<div>“Podium technology” There is a
phrase I never expected to hear.</div>
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<div>Jim Becker</div>
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<div><strong>From:</strong> <a shape="rect">Gunnells,
Brad R</a> <br clear="none">
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<div><strong>Sent:</strong>
Thursday, August 06, 2020 8:29
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Re: [AT] [External] Re:
Covid-19</div>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">I
had a friend call and ask to use
my trailer to haul some furniture
for his son going back to college.
It's going to be interesting how
this all unfolds.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">I
work in IT at University of Iowa,
so for me this work from home has
been pretty much business as usual
so I'm very lucky in that regard.
I work closely with the folks that
maintain the classrooms (due to
podium technology) and they are
equipping far more rooms to keep
the class sizes down. In addition
some will attend the classroom
while others participate online.</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);"> </div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">But
as John says, the dorms and
apartment complexes are confined
spaces. And lets be honest, when
Friday night and the weekend roll
around, how many teen and
20-somethings are going to want to
social distance? We saw pictures
of Spring Break in the south. I
presume we're going to see an
uptick in our county numbers in
early October.</div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);"> </div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">2020
has been a shit-show of a year,
plus it's an election year on top
of it. I'll be so glad to put this
year in the rear view mirror,
things have got to get
better....right?</div>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Brad</div>
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