<div dir="ltr"><div>Mike,</div><div> I would have to say it's likely our tractors were worn out... as a kid growing up I ran 2 G705's, a Massey 97 FWA (G706 made by Motec Industries for Massey after Massey apparently had a factory fire. still has the tan paint under the silver Massey paint) and an uncle's G1000 Vista and rode a different uncles' G704 (not sure the differences anymore). <br></div><div><br></div><div>The G1000 was a lot nicer, newer and more controllable version with very little of the jump shown on the other units (and maintained by my uncle who had a little better budget to start with...) but the G705's I had experience with were all jumpy, no matter how much you feathered it (my comparison was to the Case D series with the oil bath clutch and a hand start JD A you didn't want to stall). <br></div><div><br></div><div>Our big tractors were used in heavy tillage and we killed the rear ends of most tractors; (split the carrier bearing supports out of the case of the first G705, stripped the teeth off the bull gear of the second one, broke the chains in the D, the 97 is still parked at Dad's after he got 2 broken 4420 JD's and built one) so this may be an indication of how hard our ground was and/or how hard we worked them. <br></div><div>Standing order was to NOT pull in first gear on the 705's because it would cause rear end failure (that's what was happening when the second one stripped the bull gear...). <br></div><div>A 12 foot toolbar was generally all we could pull, running about 4-5" deep with wore out shovels. Tried plowing one year... took forever with a 4 bottom plow. Eastern Montana's Bowdoin Clay is HARD and ROUGH. The ground shook the cabs until the frame welds broke and we removed them.<br></div><div>Dad bought junk and made us (my brother and I) run them and fix them when they broke. We got to be about half decent at keeping rather tired iron running and in the field. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The only tractor we DIDN'T wreck the rear end or cab was a Massey 98 (Rebranded Oliver 88 or 99, I believe) with a Detroit 3-71. We traded it for the second G705 when it was taking several gallons of oil per day in the engine.</div><div>Not as much torque as those big 504's and nowhere near the beautiful sound of the big six but it would start a whole lot easier in cold weather. <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ken in AZ<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:55 AM Mike 1countryguy <<a href="mailto:mdo_1@hotmail.com">mdo_1@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Never had a "jumpy leaping lever" on any of my MM or White tractors. UTU (hand clutch), or the 670, 950, 1000, 1355, 2270, 2-150, 2-180, 4-150, 4-175, 4-210 or my A4T 1600. Has to be operator error or Mechanical issues. I drove and still drive them. Good
heavy horses and i can and do work on them and they are used on my farms. I bleed MM. Now i will go back to silent mode on the list.</div>
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<div>As Farmer notes, those old MM tractors had jumpy "leaping levers". They kept that tradition at least up through the G705's that I can attest to... trying to back up a long-nosed G705 with a grinder/mixer was a learning experience for a young lad. :)
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 3:59 AM Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Dave:</div>
Was this a foot clutch test or a hand clutch test?
<div>Sometimes when something extra scary happens I clutch my chest... Sometimes my wife carries a clutch but I would feel a little silly carrying one unless it was metal.</div>
<div>Kind of a strange term for such a device when you think about it. I would think "disconnect" would be a better term. In the case of my MM-R it could be called "the leaping lever"...</div>
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