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<div> You could have given them some Vaseline and told them where they could put that 20 year old machine!!<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of STEVE ALLEN <steveallen855@centurytel.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 9, 2020 4:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> at@lists.antique-tractor.com <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] AT Cub - Update: Now JD Dealers</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Mark,<br>
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Locally, we have Heritage tractor, but I haven't dealt with them yet. I did buy some stuff from their predecessors (and *their* predecessors and THEIR predecessors, all of whom did OK by me). I need to go by there someday just to poke around and get a feel
for the place.<br>
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I haven't dealt with Sydenstricker--Nobbe, either, though I drive past the place in Dutzow a couple times/year (usually on the way to an ACW event). I remember when that outfit was Schweissguth. I never bought any thing from them, but I knew at least one
of the brothers in passing through the local (MO-1) 2-Cylinder club. They seemed like real decent chaps. Of course, I am chagrined to count that up at 25+ years ago, now :-O<br>
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'Way back when, there were two local dealers, Miner's Town in Rolla and Pitts in St. James. We bought the '49 A from Pitt's on a rainy, cold Christmas Eve in 1984. I remember with great joy driving it home one the service road by I-44 with Dad following behind
with his flashers on. A *great* Christmas present for Dad: $600. I gotta get on that flywheel job. . .
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Anywho, since I have nothing new enough to worry about the Repairs Verboten issue, and I don't rely on my equipment to live on, dealer support is not crucial to me. But I do appreciate it anytime a dealer will talk to a fellow who comes in asking about parts
for a 70-year-old machine and doesn't laugh or throw him out. I can't speak at all for any other color, but I have had some good luck with that with the green-and-yellow guys. In fact, better luck than I've had with the Bowtie guys (got tossed off the lot
once at a GMC dealer back when my '67 was only 20 years old--it embarrassed them to have it parked by their building in public view).<br>
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The "original" Steve Allen<br>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:06:35 -0500<br>
From: Mark Johnson <markjohnson100@centurylink.net><br>
To: at@lists.antique-tractor.com<br>
Subject: Re: [AT] Cub - Update<br>
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Where Deere & Co. lost me has nothing to do with antique tractors at <br>
all, but rather with their service and maintenance policy for today's <br>
highly software-driven ag machinery. They have effectively put a 'No <br>
User-Serviceable Parts Inside. Warranty void if seal is broken' sign on <br>
their tractors, and with the destruction of the network of small local <br>
(some would say mom-and-pop) dealers, a simple failure can be a <br>
multi-day adventure in high-tech repairs. I'm not sure if it is true for <br>
the whole country, but this policy has been upheld by courts in California.<br>
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One of my sources works for one of those now-former JD dealers. Deere <br>
offered to buy back their inventory, with a one-time deal, and told them <br>
that they didn't *have* to sell everything back (tractors, implements, <br>
and parts) but that they would get no factory support for anything they <br>
sold after the cutoff date. The 'word on the street' is that Deere & Co. <br>
wants to have regional dealers with at least 6 outlets, and that more <br>
than that is even better. At the same time they got bought out, the big <br>
regional dealer in Missouri (Sydenstricker) merged with Nobbe...the <br>
combined dealership has locations in 26 towns in Missouri and Illinois. <br>
It's virtually impossible to avoid them in central to north/eastern MO <br>
and southwestern IL. [That said, I've never tried to deal with them <br>
myself...]<br>
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Mark J<br>
Columbia, MO<br>
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