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<p>I'm not sure that 2,4-D is any less risky than glyphosate; the
older chemical is certainly more toxic as far as its immediate
effects. There have been allegations of carcinogenicity for 2,4-D
in the past. <br>
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<p>Care and caution with any herbicide is always a good idea. It's
worth noting that pretty much any chlorinated hydrocarbon (which
includes almost every herbicide I can think of) has its own set of
toxic and carcinogenic risks.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/14/2020 12:30 AM, Mike M wrote:<br>
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I used to use Round Up on everything, since the recent finding
that it <u>may</u> be carcinogenic, I still use it, but am more
careful with it, and use 2-4D when I can. This doesn't protect me
from the farmer across the road who sprays all 250 acres with it,
but that's sprayed from an enclosed cab with specialized
equipment, not a backpack sprayer.<br>
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I doubt it’s about the money - more about an approach with less
of a chemical footprint. I know zip about that chemical foot
print of the compounds discussed here so I leave it to others to
decide if that chemical footprint is worth a concern or not. I
also leave everyone with the reminder that not all chemical
footprints are well known, regardless of the labeling and short
term general consensus.
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<div>Personally I just use roundup on the low, bushy poison ivy.
The climbing vines I hack a 1’ section out of it. When
that vine re-emerges I hit it with round up. Works great.</div>
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<div>I have to have round-up for the grasses and weeds that try
to tear up the edges and cracks of our private asphalt road.
So the cost of a little extra round-up for poison ivy control
is of no financial/chemical footprint concern to me.</div>
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<div>I have very little reaction to poison ivy. I pretty much
have to roll around in it for me to even get a few blisters.
But my poor wife really suffers. She generally gets it in
early spring. I assume she’s getting into the roots of the
poison ivy while she’s planting annuals and working beds
before the low bushy stuff emerges and can been
seen/identified.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">How much do you pay for vinegar? Ortho
Max Poison Ivy is 8% Triclopyr and you mix 4 oz to the
gallon. A 16oz jug is $8.00, so $2.00 per gallon.
I'm sure it's a better value in larger quantities. I
don't think I can find vinegar as cheap as $2 a
gallon.
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<div> I've read of the Triclopyr as well but it's
pricey for the area I need to cover. I'm going to
try the vinegar solution first because its cheap
and so am I. Brush be gone would be fine if I had
a small area to clear, but I don't. I'll report
back the results. Thanks all for the info. <br>
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Mike M<br>
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scads of poison ivy around my place, anyone
have a secret recipe<br>
to nuke this stuff? I'm not overly
susceptible to it, but my daughter<br>
is. Also I've read that your reaction to it
can change over time.<br>
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