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    I used to use Round Up on everything, since the recent finding that
    it <u>may</u> be carcinogenic, I still use it, but am more careful
    with it, and use 2-4D when I can. This doesn't protect me from the
    farmer across the road who sprays all 250 acres with it, but that's
    sprayed  from an enclosed cab with specialized equipment, not a
    backpack sprayer.<br>
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    Mike M<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/13/2020 7:06 PM, Spencer Yost
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      I doubt it’s about the money - more about an approach with less of
      a chemical footprint.  I know zip about that chemical foot print
      of the compounds discussed here so I leave it to others to decide
      if that chemical footprint is worth a concern or not.  I also
      leave everyone with the reminder that not all chemical footprints
      are well known, regardless of the labeling and short term general
      consensus.
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      <div>Personally I just use roundup on the low, bushy poison ivy.  
        The climbing vines I hack a 1’ section out of it.   When that
        vine re-emerges I hit it with round up.  Works great.</div>
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      <div>I have to have round-up for the grasses and weeds that try to
        tear up the edges and cracks of our private asphalt road. So the
        cost of a little extra round-up for poison ivy control is of no
        financial/chemical footprint concern to me.</div>
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      <div>I have very little reaction to poison ivy. I pretty much have
        to roll around in it for me to even get a few blisters. But my
        poor wife really suffers. She generally gets it in early spring.
        I assume she’s getting into the roots of the poison ivy while
        she’s planting annuals and working beds before the low bushy
        stuff emerges and can been seen/identified.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">Spencer</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Jun 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Stephen
            Offiler <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com"><soffiler@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">How much do you pay for vinegar? Ortho Max
                Poison Ivy is 8% Triclopyr and you mix 4 oz to the
                gallon.  A 16oz jug is $8.00, so $2.00 per gallon.  I'm
                sure it's a better value in larger quantities.  I don't
                think I can find vinegar as cheap as $2 a gallon.
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                <div>SO</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 12, 2020
                  at 11:34 PM Mike M <<a
                    href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
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                  <div> I've read of the Triclopyr as well but it's
                    pricey for the area I need to cover. I'm going to
                    try the vinegar solution first because its cheap
                    and  so am I. Brush be gone would be fine if I had a
                    small area to clear, but I don't. I'll report back
                    the results. Thanks all for the info. <br>
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                    Mike M<br>
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                    <div>On 6/12/2020 6:22 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Ortho Brush-B-Gone (Triclopyr)</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun
                          12, 2020 at 5:08 PM Mike M <<a
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                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have
                          scads of poison ivy around my place, anyone
                          have a secret recipe<br>
                          to nuke this stuff? I'm not overly susceptible
                          to it, but my daughter<br>
                          is. Also I've read that your reaction to it
                          can change over time.<br>
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                          Thanks,<br>
                          Mike M<br>
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