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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thomas, 4020s with Detroit Diesels? Must have been after-market conversions. And I’d wonder why. Although I haven’t (yet) owned a 4020 I include them in my general sense of “hard to find a better engineered, better built…” etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dean Vinson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Saint Paris, Ohio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AT [mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ustonThomas Mehrkam<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2020 6:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Starter installation trick on the later two cylinder JD Tractors.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>JD seems to have a following so they must have done something right over the years. I have never owned one just observed some of the trials of neighbors. We never had that much trouble on the other brands. Maybe the neighbors were just bad mechanics.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>We had a big land owner that raised thousands of acres of rice. They had all JD. 4020's and such. Plus JD combines. I drove the combines when they were in a pinch for a couple of summers. I have no problem with the combines and the 4020 tractors. Except they looked like a steam engine with all that black smoke coming out of the stack. Boy those Detroit Diesels could scream and blow smoke.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_0715908559"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Sunday, May 17, 2020, 7:40:09 PM CDT, Dean Vinson <<a href="mailto:dean@vinsonfarm.net">dean@vinsonfarm.net</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv1160036549><div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I like pretty much all the old tractor makes, and have a red one, green one, and a newer (~1980) blue one, and all three get pretty regular use. The green one is a 620, same model Dean VP was describing. Difficult starter access aside, my guess is you’d have to hunt pretty hard to find a better engineered, better built, more reliable, tougher-down-to-the-last-breath series of tractors.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Not that I’d kick an Oliver 77 out of bed, so to speak.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dean Vinson</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Saint Paris Ohio</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1160036549yqt07853><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> AT [<a href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ustonThomas Mehrkam<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Starter installation trick on the later two cylinder JD Tractors.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Why do you guys LOVE those pain in the ass John Deer tractors so much. I have owned international, Massey Harris, Massey Ferguson, Oliver and Miniapalious Moline tractors. All were acceptable. All of those tractors still run. :-}</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>There was always a lot of Cussing, Wrench Throwing, Pulling etc from the JD owners. :-} </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Now I did it and insulted your Religion. :-}</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv1160036549yahoo_quoted_9754932269"><div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Sunday, May 17, 2020, 2:46:43 AM CDT, <a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank">deanvp@att.net</a> <<a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank">deanvp@att.net</a>> wrote: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I just went through a few days of hassle that caused me to remove/reinstall</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>the starter on my 1958 JD 620 high Clearance tractor. There is an</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>abbreviation for this procedure called a complete PITA unless you know a</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>trick I knew at one time and had completely forgotten about. My situation</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>was compounded by a 10" shorter battery cable than what is supposed to be</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>installed. Mine was 54", the std is 64" that makes it a triple PITA. I am</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>referring to all the late Two Cylinder tractors, letter and numbered series,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>that have the starter inside a cast cavity in the underside of the main</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>case. The battery cable is fed to an anodized copper semi-ridged ribbon the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>connects to the starter switch mounted on the starter. To use the proper</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>terminology on a JD 620 it is called a cranking motor. To pull the started</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>one is supposed to disconnect the battery cable from this copper ribbon</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>before trying to remove the starter. Well folks unless all the planets are</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>in alignment and the nut that needs to be loosened is oriented such that you</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>can get to it between the flywheel and the main case there is no way in hell</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>that is going to happen. Well, unless as JD very casually mentions that the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>flywheel may need to be removed. That is not a casual decision. So if you</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>have to remove the starter with the cable still attached, the battery cable</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>needs to be worked forward and downward to provide enough slack to slide the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>starter out of the cavity so one can get to the nut that holds the battery</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>cable to the copper ribbon. That in itself can be difficult. But now lets</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>say you are ready to reinstall the starter with the cable attached removing</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>the slack at the starter in inserted into the round hole in the main</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>casting. Here come the trick that will save you all kinds of grief and time.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>As you slide the starter cone into the hole you will all of a sudden hit a</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>dead stop and are unable to get the starter further into the hole. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>What you will discover is either the copper ribbon and bolt/nut tied to the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>battery cable is hitting the casting or the lever that actuates the button</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>on the starter switch is hitting the cavity hole casting or both. The</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>cable/copper ribbon and the starter switch lever go through an oblong</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>horizontal hole above the hole the starter goes into. So one comes to the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>conclusion that somehow the battery cable/copper ribbon is bent to go</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>through that hole and then somehow pry the switch lever up high enough to</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>get thought the upper hole. I can assure you that just plain doesn't work.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>BTW, this is all hidden behind the flywheel. But what completely fools you</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>is the starter can be raised another 1/2" or more in its hole because the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>whole cone isn't in yet and the lever simply slides over the interference</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>and all is cool, I will guarantee you will convince yourself that the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>starter can't go higher because it is in a tight hole. Wrong it will go</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>higher. I used a floor jack to get the starter up close to the cavity and</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>tiled the starter to get it started in the hole and then carefully found the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>center of gravity of the starter and lifted that whole sucker up the extra</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>half inch or so and boom the lever and cable/copper ribbon fall into place</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>by taking the slack out. Once I did it the right way I realized I had been</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>here before but probably 20 years ago. And then all the lights started</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>blinking. This trick will save you hours of frustration and heartache. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I also changed the cable to a longer version even longer than standard</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>version. I went to 72" rather than the std 64" I wanted more wiggle room.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I never could really firmly establish whether the original cable size was</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>2/0 or 1/0 from the factory but since there are places where the cable goes</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>though that are tight fits the OD of the cable cannot be much over 0.5" I</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>went out cable hunting at all the local Auto Parts stores as well as Napa.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I found out there is a bunch of different cables out there with varying</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>thickness of insulation. None fit my requirement until I found some 1/0</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Welding cable. That fit four requirements. High current carrying capability,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>OD wasn't too big, the cable was reasonably flexible and it was less</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>expensive than anything else I had looked at. Now where do you get that</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>stuff? Of course at a welding supply store except the closest one for me is</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>a bit of a hike so I went to a "Batteries Plus" dealer. Sure enough had</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>exactly what I needed. Cable cut to length. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>So I hope this might save you some time and grief you when you work on the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>late letter series and numbered series Two Cylinder JD starter issues. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>BTW, the thing that caused me to remove the starter to begin with was a</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>complete misdiagnosis on my part. !@#$%^&*( Starter went dead. Made the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>assumption the starter switch had gone bad because I knew I had a good</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>battery and 12 Volts at the starter switch. The real problem was I had a</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>resistive ground between the battery cable and the battery box and then to</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>top it off an even more resistive ground (15K ohms) between the battery box</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>and the rest of the tractor. Now why did this all seem to happen when I</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>thought I was going to go to a plowing day . I Power Washed the tractor</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>which I hadn't done in a long time. Rust developed immediately where it</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>doesn't belong. So the moral of this story is to never wash your tractor.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Dean VP</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Snohomish, WA 98290</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>AT mailing list</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=yiv1160036549msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=yqt51528><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>AT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>