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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Funny I thought all 4020's had Detroit. These guys owned about two dozen of them. Had their own private repair shop run by one of the brothers. Their shop was better equipped than the local Dealer. They farmed land in Texas and Louisiana.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">We were farming over 2000 acres of peanuts on land mostly rented from them. They farmed thousands of acres of rice. All that has stopped. Little rice and Peanuts farmed in the area. Mostly Corn. The rice driers and Peanut driers are all gone now. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">One of my first engineering jobs was designing optical rice sorters. There were many rice related business all over the Houston area. No more. I must have installed over 10,000 channels of rice sorters.<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, May 18, 2020, 9:39:16 AM CDT, Ken Knierim <ken.knierim@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv3194428191"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>I have also heard the 4020 spoken quite highly of. My Dad has 2 and they came to him in pieces (one was broke in half at the bell housing due to a loader, the other was called "speckles" because of the oil landing all over it when it ran). He got the factory manuals and went through them from end to end including the powershift. They are solid tractors that get a fair amount of use (though not the tractor-breaking tillage we did when I was growing up. Bowdoin clay might as well be concrete when its dry) and they aren't in the shop often. Once the kids (read: field mechanics that could keep everything sorta running) moved away he got the first green tractor and parked the wore-out Minneapolis hardware. He got the 2-piece special for "parts", then got the parts to fix it too (since it came with a cab). <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I had a LOT of hours cultivating corn with a 2-row setup on a hand-start '39 A when I was 11 and 12. I can't say I miss that beast; if I made the mistake of stalling it I wasn't strong enough to start it until I was about 16... and Dad was usually busy elsewhere. <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Oh, the memories. <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ken in AZ<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3194428191gmail_quote"><div class="yiv3194428191yqt8384093643" id="yiv3194428191yqt99931"><div class="yiv3194428191gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:08 AM Cecil Bearden <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv3194428191gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<p>A 4020 is the highest priced tractor for its age at all the Farm
sales around here..<br clear="none">
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<div>On 5/18/2020 9:04 AM, Dean Vinson
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<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Thomas,
4020s with Detroit Diesels? Must have been after-market
conversions. And I’d wonder why. Although I haven’t
(yet) owned a 4020 I include them in my general sense of
“hard to find a better engineered, better built…” etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Dean
Vinson<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Saint
Paris, Ohio<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> AT
[<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>] <b>On
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Starter installation trick on
the later two cylinder JD Tractors.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">JD
seems to have a following so they must have done
something right over the years. I have never owned one
just observed some of the trials of neighbors. We never
had that much trouble on the other brands. Maybe the
neighbors were just bad mechanics.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">We
had a big land owner that raised thousands of acres of
rice. They had all JD. 4020's and such. Plus JD
combines. I drove the combines when they were in a
pinch for a couple of summers. I have no problem with
the combines and the 4020 tractors. Except they looked
like a steam engine with all that black smoke coming out
of the stack. Boy those Detroit Diesels could scream
and blow smoke.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="yiv3194428191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">On
Sunday, May 17, 2020, 7:40:09 PM CDT, Dean Vinson <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dean@vinsonfarm.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:dean@vinsonfarm.net">dean@vinsonfarm.net</a>>
wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">I
like pretty much all the old tractor makes, and
have a red one, green one, and a newer (~1980)
blue one, and all three get pretty regular
use. The green one is a 620, same model Dean
VP was describing. Difficult starter access
aside, my guess is you’d have to hunt pretty
hard to find a better engineered, better built,
more reliable, tougher-down-to-the-last-breath
series of tractors.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Not
that I’d kick an Oliver 77 out of bed, so to
speak.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Dean
Vinson</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Paris Ohio</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">
AT [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ustonThomas Mehrkam<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:38 AM<br clear="none">
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Discussion Group <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Starter
installation trick on the later two
cylinder JD Tractors.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Why
do you guys LOVE those pain in the ass
John Deer tractors so much. I have owned
international, Massey Harris, Massey
Ferguson, Oliver and Miniapalious Moline
tractors. All were acceptable. All of
those tractors still run. :-}</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">There
was always a lot of Cussing, Wrench
Throwing, Pulling etc from the JD owners.
:-} </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Now
I did it and insulted your Religion. :-}</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">On
Sunday, May 17, 2020, 2:46:43 AM CDT, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:deanvp@att.net">deanvp@att.net</a>
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wrote: </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">I
just went through a few days of hassle
that caused me to remove/reinstall</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">the
starter on my 1958 JD 620 high
Clearance tractor. There is an</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">abbreviation
for this procedure called a complete
PITA unless you know a</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">trick
I knew at one time and had completely
forgotten about. My situation</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">was
compounded by a 10" shorter battery
cable than what is supposed to be</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">installed.
Mine was 54", the std is 64" that
makes it a triple PITA. I am</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">referring
to all the late Two Cylinder tractors,
letter and numbered series,</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">that
have the starter inside a cast cavity
in the underside of the main</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">case.
The battery cable is fed to an
anodized copper semi-ridged ribbon the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">connects
to the starter switch mounted on the
starter. To use the proper</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">terminology
on a JD 620 it is called a cranking
motor. To pull the started</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">one
is supposed to disconnect the battery
cable from this copper ribbon</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">before
trying to remove the starter. Well
folks unless all the planets are</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">in
alignment and the nut that needs to be
loosened is oriented such that you</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">can
get to it between the flywheel and the
main case there is no way in hell</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">that
is going to happen. Well, unless as
JD very casually mentions that the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">flywheel
may need to be removed. That is not a
casual decision. So if you</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">have
to remove the starter with the cable
still attached, the battery cable</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">needs
to be worked forward and downward to
provide enough slack to slide the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">starter
out of the cavity so one can get to
the nut that holds the battery</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">cable
to the copper ribbon. That in itself
can be difficult. But now lets</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">say
you are ready to reinstall the starter
with the cable attached removing</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">the
slack at the starter in inserted into
the round hole in the main</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">casting.
Here come the trick that will save you
all kinds of grief and time.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">As
you slide the starter cone into the
hole you will all of a sudden hit a</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">dead
stop and are unable to get the starter
further into the hole. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">What
you will discover is either the copper
ribbon and bolt/nut tied to the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">battery
cable is hitting the casting or the
lever that actuates the button</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">on
the starter switch is hitting the
cavity hole casting or both. The</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">cable/copper
ribbon and the starter switch lever go
through an oblong</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">horizontal
hole above the hole the starter goes
into. So one comes to the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">conclusion
that somehow the battery cable/copper
ribbon is bent to go</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">through
that hole and then somehow pry the
switch lever up high enough to</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">get
thought the upper hole. I can assure
you that just plain doesn't work.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">BTW,
this is all hidden behind the
flywheel. But what completely fools
you</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">is
the starter can be raised another 1/2"
or more in its hole because the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">whole
cone isn't in yet and the lever simply
slides over the interference</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">and
all is cool, I will guarantee you will
convince yourself that the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">starter
can't go higher because it is in a
tight hole. Wrong it will go</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">higher.
I used a floor jack to get the starter
up close to the cavity and</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">tiled
the starter to get it started in the
hole and then carefully found the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">center
of gravity of the starter and lifted
that whole sucker up the extra</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">half
inch or so and boom the lever and
cable/copper ribbon fall into place</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">by
taking the slack out. Once I did it
the right way I realized I had been</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">here
before but probably 20 years ago. And
then all the lights started</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">blinking.
This trick will save you hours of
frustration and heartache. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">I
also changed the cable to a longer
version even longer than standard</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">version.
I went to 72" rather than the std 64"
I wanted more wiggle room.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">I
never could really firmly establish
whether the original cable size was</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">2/0
or 1/0 from the factory but since
there are places where the cable goes</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">though
that are tight fits the OD of the
cable cannot be much over 0.5" I</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">went
out cable hunting at all the local
Auto Parts stores as well as Napa.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">I
found out there is a bunch of
different cables out there with
varying</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">thickness
of insulation. None fit my requirement
until I found some 1/0</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">Welding
cable. That fit four requirements.
High current carrying capability,</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">OD
wasn't too big, the cable was
reasonably flexible and it was less</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">expensive
than anything else I had looked at.
Now where do you get that</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">stuff?
Of course at a welding supply store
except the closest one for me is</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">a
bit of a hike so I went to a
"Batteries Plus" dealer. Sure enough
had</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">exactly
what I needed. Cable cut to length. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">So
I hope this might save you some time
and grief you when you work on the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">late
letter series and numbered series Two
Cylinder JD starter issues. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">BTW,
the thing that caused me to remove the
starter to begin with was a</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">complete
misdiagnosis on my part.
!@#$%^&*( Starter went dead. Made
the</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">assumption
the starter switch had gone bad
because I knew I had a good</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">battery
and 12 Volts at the starter switch.
The real problem was I had a</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">resistive
ground between the battery cable and
the battery box and then to</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">top
it off an even more resistive ground
(15K ohms) between the battery box</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">and
the rest of the tractor. Now why did
this all seem to happen when I</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">thought
I was going to go to a plowing day .
I Power Washed the tractor</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">which
I hadn't done in a long time. Rust
developed immediately where it</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);">doesn't
belong. So the moral of this story is
to never wash your tractor.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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VP</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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WA 98290</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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