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    <p>A 4020 is the highest priced tractor for its age at all the Farm
      sales around here..<br>
      Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/18/2020 9:04 AM, Dean Vinson
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thomas,
            4020s with Detroit Diesels?   Must have been after-market
            conversions.   And I’d wonder why.   Although I haven’t
            (yet) owned a 4020 I include them in my general sense of
            “hard to find a better engineered, better built…” etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dean
            Vinson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Saint
            Paris, Ohio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> AT
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>ustonThomas Mehrkam<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2020 6:48 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Starter installation trick on
                the later two cylinder JD Tractors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">JD
                seems to have a following so they must have done
                something right over the years.  I have never owned one
                just observed some of the trials of neighbors.  We never
                had that much trouble on the other brands. Maybe the
                neighbors were just bad mechanics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">We
                had a big land owner that raised thousands of acres of
                rice. They had all JD.  4020's and such. Plus JD
                combines.  I drove the combines when they were in a
                pinch for a couple of summers.  I have no problem with
                the combines and the 4020 tractors.  Except they looked
                like a steam engine with all that black smoke coming out
                of the stack.  Boy those Detroit Diesels could scream
                and blow smoke.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On
                  Sunday, May 17, 2020, 7:40:09 PM CDT, Dean Vinson <<a
                    href="mailto:dean@vinsonfarm.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">dean@vinsonfarm.net</a>>
                  wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
                        like pretty much all the old tractor makes, and
                        have a red one, green one, and a newer (~1980)
                        blue one, and all three get pretty regular
                        use.   The green one is a 620, same model Dean
                        VP was describing.    Difficult starter access
                        aside, my guess is you’d have to hunt pretty
                        hard to find a better engineered, better built,
                        more reliable, tougher-down-to-the-last-breath
                        series of tractors.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Not
                        that I’d kick an Oliver 77 out of bed, so to
                        speak.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dean
                        Vinson</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Saint
                        Paris Ohio</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">
                              AT [<a
                                href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>ustonThomas Mehrkam<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:38 AM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email
                              Discussion Group <<a
                                href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Starter
                              installation trick on the later two
                              cylinder JD Tractors.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Why
                              do you guys LOVE those pain in the ass
                              John Deer tractors so much.  I have owned
                              international, Massey Harris, Massey
                              Ferguson, Oliver and Miniapalious Moline
                              tractors. All were acceptable. All of
                              those tractors still run. :-}</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">There
                              was always a lot of Cussing, Wrench
                              Throwing, Pulling etc from the JD owners.
                              :-}   </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
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                          <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Now
                              I did it and insulted your Religion. :-}</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On
                                Sunday, May 17, 2020, 2:46:43 AM CDT, <a
                                  href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a>
                                <<a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a>>
                                wrote: </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I
                                  just went through a few days of hassle
                                  that caused me to remove/reinstall</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">the
                                  starter on my 1958 JD 620 high
                                  Clearance tractor. There is an</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">abbreviation
                                  for this procedure called a complete
                                  PITA unless you know a</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">trick
                                  I knew at one time and had completely
                                  forgotten about. My situation</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">was
                                  compounded by a 10" shorter battery
                                  cable than what is supposed to be</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">installed.
                                  Mine was 54", the std is 64" that
                                  makes it a triple PITA.  I am</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">referring
                                  to all the late Two Cylinder tractors,
                                  letter and numbered series,</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">that
                                  have the starter inside a cast cavity
                                  in the underside of the main</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">case.
                                  The battery cable is fed to an
                                  anodized copper semi-ridged ribbon the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">connects
                                  to the starter switch mounted on the
                                  starter. To use the proper</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">terminology
                                  on a JD 620 it is called a cranking
                                  motor. To pull the started</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">one
                                  is supposed to disconnect the battery
                                  cable from this copper ribbon</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">before
                                  trying to remove the starter.  Well
                                  folks unless all the planets are</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">in
                                  alignment and the nut that needs to be
                                  loosened is oriented such that you</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">can
                                  get to it between the flywheel and the
                                  main case there is no way in hell</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">that
                                  is going to happen.  Well, unless as
                                  JD very casually mentions that the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">flywheel
                                  may need to be removed. That is not a
                                  casual decision.  So if you</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">have
                                  to remove the starter with the cable
                                  still attached, the battery cable</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">needs
                                  to be worked forward and downward to
                                  provide enough slack to slide the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">starter
                                  out of the cavity so one can get to
                                  the nut that holds the battery</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">cable
                                  to the copper ribbon.  That in itself
                                  can be difficult. But now lets</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">say
                                  you are ready to reinstall the starter
                                  with the cable attached removing</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">the
                                  slack at the starter in inserted into
                                  the round hole in the main</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">casting.
                                  Here come the trick that will save you
                                  all kinds of grief and time.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">As
                                  you slide the starter cone into the
                                  hole you will all of a sudden hit a</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">dead
                                  stop and are unable to get the starter
                                  further into the hole. </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">What
                                  you will discover is either the copper
                                  ribbon and bolt/nut tied to the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">battery
                                  cable is hitting the casting or the
                                  lever that actuates the button</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">on
                                  the starter switch is hitting the
                                  cavity hole casting or both. The</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">cable/copper
                                  ribbon and the starter switch lever go
                                  through an oblong</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">horizontal 
                                  hole above the hole the starter goes
                                  into. So one comes to the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">conclusion
                                  that somehow the battery cable/copper
                                  ribbon is bent to go</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">through
                                  that hole and then somehow pry the
                                  switch lever up high enough to</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">get
                                  thought the upper hole.  I can assure
                                  you that just plain doesn't work.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">BTW,
                                  this is all hidden behind the
                                  flywheel. But what completely fools
                                  you</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">is
                                  the starter can be raised another 1/2"
                                  or more in its hole because the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">whole
                                  cone isn't in yet and the lever simply
                                  slides over the interference</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">and
                                  all is cool, I will guarantee you will
                                  convince yourself that the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">starter
                                  can't go higher because it is in a
                                  tight hole.  Wrong it will go</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">higher.
                                  I used a floor jack to get the starter
                                  up close to the cavity and</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">tiled
                                  the starter to get it started in the
                                  hole and then carefully found the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">center
                                  of gravity of the starter and lifted
                                  that whole sucker up the extra</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">half
                                  inch or so and boom the lever and
                                  cable/copper ribbon fall into place</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">by
                                  taking the slack out. Once I did it
                                  the right way I realized I had been</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">here
                                  before but probably 20 years ago. And
                                  then all the lights started</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">blinking. 
                                  This trick will save you hours of
                                  frustration and heartache.  </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I
                                  also changed the cable to a longer
                                  version even longer than standard</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">version.
                                  I went to 72" rather than the std 64" 
                                  I wanted more wiggle room.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I
                                  never could really firmly establish
                                  whether the original cable size  was</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">2/0
                                  or 1/0 from the factory but since
                                  there are places where the cable goes</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">though
                                  that are tight fits the OD of the
                                  cable cannot be much over 0.5" I</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">went
                                  out cable hunting at all the local
                                  Auto Parts stores as well as Napa.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I
                                  found out there is a bunch of
                                  different cables out there with
                                  varying</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">thickness
                                  of insulation. None fit my requirement
                                  until I found some 1/0</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Welding
                                  cable. That fit four requirements.
                                  High current carrying capability,</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">OD
                                  wasn't too big, the cable was
                                  reasonably flexible and it was less</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">expensive
                                  than anything else I had looked at.
                                  Now where do you get that</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">stuff?
                                  Of course at a welding supply store
                                  except the closest one for me is</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">a
                                  bit of a hike so I went to a
                                  "Batteries Plus" dealer. Sure enough
                                  had</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">exactly
                                  what I needed. Cable cut to length. </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">So
                                  I hope this might save you some time
                                  and grief you when you work on the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">late
                                  letter series and numbered series Two
                                  Cylinder JD starter issues. </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">BTW,
                                  the thing that caused me to remove the
                                  starter to begin with was a</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">complete
                                  misdiagnosis on my part. 
                                  !@#$%^&*(  Starter went dead. Made
                                  the</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">assumption
                                  the starter switch had gone bad
                                  because I knew I had a good</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">battery
                                  and 12 Volts at the starter switch. 
                                  The real problem was I had a</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">resistive
                                  ground between the battery cable and
                                  the battery box and then to</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">top
                                  it off an even more resistive ground
                                  (15K ohms) between the battery box</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">and
                                  the rest of the tractor.  Now why did
                                  this all seem to happen when I</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">thought
                                  I was going to go to a plowing day . 
                                    I Power Washed the tractor</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">which
                                  I hadn't done in a long time. Rust
                                  developed immediately where it</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">doesn't
                                  belong.  So the moral of this story is
                                  to never wash your tractor.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Dean
                                  VP</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="yiv1160036549msonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Snohomish,
                                  WA 98290</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> </span><span
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