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If you have the tag number from your Dell laptop, you can enter it
at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dell.com/support">http://dell.com/support</a> and it should tell you hardware it has
(at least when it was shipped).<br>
<br>
Check your laptop, you "might" have an external sata port on it,
some laptops do. That may get around a lot of the speed issues.<br>
<br>
Howard<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/20 11:10 AM, Stephen Offiler
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ah-HA. Thanks Brad. I was thinking external,
but internal makes a ton more sense from a speed standpoint.
My laptop is a Dell Precision, a workstation-class machine (I
ran Solidworks on it) dates to '08. SATA rings a big bell. <br>
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<div>SO<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at
11:06 AM Gunnells, Brad R <<a
href="mailto:brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu</a>>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Depending
on the laptop, some are made fairly accessible. My old
Dell Latitude (business class machine) is one screw on
the corner of the case and it slides out. It's a SATA
interface just like the SSD. Mound the SSD on the slide
out chassis and slip it back in and put the screw in. A
less than 15 minute job on mine.</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Some
laptops may be a bit more difficult to get to the hard
drive to remove. REALLY old laptops may have an IDE
drive and not SATA. So you may be out of luck if it's
too old.</div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">It
is possible to get an external SSD drive in an enclosure
and use it like your memory stick. But you're loosing
some performance compared to mounting the drive
internally.</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Brad</div>
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dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri,
sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AT <<a
href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
on behalf of Stephen Offiler <<a
href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a
href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] [External] Re: OT — Tablet
computers</font>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>Google will have my answer but I'm working right
now and don't want to waste time going down any
rabbit holes. My question is how the SSD's
connect. USB? If so, do they need 2.0, 3.0?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>SO</div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:40 AM
Gunnells, Brad R <<a
href="mailto:brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu</a>>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">An
SSD will really breath new life into old
hardware. Especially laptops. Many laptop hard
drives are 5400 RPM instead of 7200 like most
desktops. (or at least that's what I'd seen
several years ago).</div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">SSD
drives have come down in price and a 120GB can
be found for under $30 and a 240GB for under
$50.</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">So
an SSD and linux OS can take what was a paper
weight and make it a fairly usable machine for
most peoples use. It's what I call a form of
recycling.
<span
id="gmail-m_-5547183201078887165x_gmail-m_-1716128801797113508🙂">🙂</span></div>
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<div
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
AT <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
on behalf of Stephen Offiler <<a
href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion
Group <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [AT] OT —
Tablet computers</font>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">That sounds like a good plan,
Charlie. You're another strong member of the
list of people that nudged me into Linux, for
sure. I haven't committed to spending any
money on this rig as yet, but if I want to
work around a questionable HD, an SSD sounds
like the right approach. 120GB is a ton for
my needs. Mostly doing work on the laptop, so
data storage is on the work servers. I don't
store a lot of data in any event... just
looked at my iMac (home use) and my 1TB drive
has 850GB free, the majority being OS and
apps, not data.
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<div>Thanks again,</div>
<div>SO</div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:24 AM
cgs <<a
href="mailto:oxygenfarm@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">oxygenfarm@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="+1">On all my machines I've
installed a 120GB SSD for the Mint OS,
then used the original HD as backup and
storage. Very fast!</font><br>
<br>
<div>On 4/16/20 6:52 AM, Stephen Offiler
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bob:
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I started here: <a
href="https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I chose "Mate" based on
recommendations from ATIS folks. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Once I had the file downloaded, I
used balenaEtcher to make a bootable
thumb drive: <a
href="https://www.balena.io/etcher/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.balena.io/etcher/</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I plugged said thumb drive into
the laptop and bam, I'm looking at
Linux. Some machines, not mine,
will need you to F12 or something
like that during initial startup in
order to point to the thumb rather
than the HD.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It appears you're up and running
off the thumb, but I eventually
learned it was actually just loading
an installable copy of the OS into
RAM. You can do what looks like
work straight from there, but
anything you do is lost on
power-down. I eventually decided to
install and partition my HD for
dual-boot. My HD has been wonky in
the past but right now it seems to
be fine and dandy and I don't even
recall what the problems used to be;
might not have been the HD at all.
As yet I haven't really customized
the install much, so it will be no
big deal to go back and start over,
reformatting the HD and dumping the
XP partition.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>SO</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at
8:11 PM <a
href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a> <<a
href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Steve
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am going to try it. Where
did you get Linux Mint 19.3?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bob<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Sent from my
iPhone</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Apr
14, 2020, at 5:47 PM,
Stephen Offiler <<a
href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">Go for it
Bob! I am now doing my
level best to work from
home as much as possible,
which is tough when you're
a CNC guy, they don't
travel well ;-) I am just
reorganizing work flow so
all the paperwork comes
home with me and I'm only
in the shop to be on the
floor. At home my iMac
becomes the portal to my
Windowns workstation at
work, which runs
Solidworks and the
management software. It
left me wanting a separate
screen for email,
spreadsheets, word
processing. I installed
Linux Mint 19.3 Mate
Edition on a Dell laptop
that was top of the line
in 2008, and it works like
a charm. Learning curve
is minimal. I'd say I was
productive with it the
same day.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Steve O.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr
14, 2020 at 5:38 PM <a
href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a>
<<a
href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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Mike<br>
<br>
I have two ipads. One
older one 2012 or 13
vintage We bought it
for my daighter gor
college and a new work
one. The older one is
slso slow snd will not
run a lot of the newer
programs, excuse me
“Apps”. Both ate WiFi
only the new one runs
with no issues. The
older one is slow and
cluncky. That started
with some of the layer
firmware. Sort of like
running windows 7<br>
<br>
All the computers here
are microsoft. Except
for 2 older laptops that
the group has me
convinced I should try
linux on<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Apr 14, 2020, at
4:48 PM, <a
href="mailto:szabelski@wildblue.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
szabelski@wildblue.net</a>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Mike,<br>
> <br>
> If your wife’s
I-pad is seven years
old, she doesn’t have
the latest OS, which is
why she’s probably
running slow and getting
all the ads. My wife and
I both have newer
I-pads, and we don’t
have that issue. Our
only issue is that we
have to get our internet
through a dish since we
can’t get any cable out
here.<br>
> <br>
> My wife’s older
I-pad had the same
issues before we up
greased.<br>
> <br>
> Carl<br>
> ----- Original
Message -----<br>
> From: Mike M <<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>><br>
> To: <a
href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
> Sent: Tue, 14 Apr
2020 16:29:44 -0400
(EDT)<br>
> Subject: Re: [AT]
OT — Tablet computers<br>
> <br>
> Thanks Spencer, I
will look for a straight
up I-Pad, if they do
offer<br>
> student discounts,
my daughter has an .edu
account we can use. I'm
not<br>
> anti Apple per se,
but I grew up on
Microsoft in college
with Windows<br>
> using version 3.1.
As I understand it
Apple, even though
superior, would<br>
> not grant licensing
for their operating
system, so most software
was<br>
> written for
Windows. Deep down, I
know that Apple is a
better product,<br>
> but at times it
doesn't play well with
others. The reason my
wife's<br>
> I-pad is so slow is
that I cannot find any
third party ad blocking<br>
> software for it. My
windows machine is much
faster due to the fact I
can<br>
> run several anti ad
ware blocking programs
on it, and rarely see an
ad.<br>
> I had to try and
diagnose a computer
problems the other day
and had to<br>
> go back to IE9, to
eliminate the browser as
the problem. Holy crap,
if I<br>
> had to put up with
that many ad's and
popups everyday, I
wouldn't use<br>
> the Internet.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Mike M<br>
> <br>
>> On 4/14/2020
4:12 PM, Spencer Yost
wrote:<br>
>> First off:
great gift idea. I’m
sure she’ll appreciate
it.<br>
>> <br>
>> Apple keeps a
really tight control on
prices and their
partners can’t<br>
>> undercut them
by much. The few bucks
you might save at Newegg
may not<br>
>> be worth it
since Apple presale
support is pretty good.
In addition if<br>
>> you buy from
Apple I understand they
take trade-ins. At least
get some<br>
>> credit on your
wife’s current iPad.<br>
>> <br>
>> Also get the
model that is just
“iPad“. There is an iPad
Pro, iPad<br>
>> Air, etc. Just
the straight up iPad is
what you need. 32 GB
model<br>
>> should be
plenty as well since she
doesn’t use the camera.
Might<br>
>> want to double
check her current usage
tho to be sure. She
might<br>
>> also start
using the camera when
she sees how good the
camera has gotten.<br>
>> <br>
>> Connectors have
changed quite a bit over
the years. If she has
any<br>
>> devices she
wants to plug-in you
might need to check on
getting an<br>
>> adapter. I
guess that can come
after the unwrapping.<br>
>> <br>
>> As an aside:
I’ve been doing software
for a living for a long
time<br>
>> and I have
never understood many
folks reluctance to use
Apple<br>
>> products. Sure,
they are expensive. But
they’re really good
products<br>
>> and Apple is
more likely than any
other vendor to support
their<br>
>> customers, back
their product and
protect your privacy.
Those are<br>
>> important
things to me. Full
disclosure: I have a
personal Mac and a<br>
>> work Mac.<br>
>> <br>
>> Good luck!<br>
>> <br>
>> Spencer<br>
>> <br>
>> Sent from my
iPhone<br>
>> <br>
>>>> On Apr
14, 2020, at 3:29 PM,
Mike M <<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> So I'm an
Apple newb, and prefer
to stay that way. I have
always<br>
>>> found that
I get the most bang for
my computer buck if I
buy last<br>
>>> years
latest and greatest,
when the purist need the
absolute latest<br>
>>> model. She
doesn't use the camera,
so that's a feature that
I'm not<br>
>>> concerned
about. What model has
the fastest processing
speed, and<br>
>>> will give
me the most bang for my
buck?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Mike M<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> On
4/14/2020 12:44 PM,
Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
>>>> I made
the mistake of looking
at Newegg..., now I want
an iPad!<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> SO<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On Tue,
Apr 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM
Mike M <<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a><br>
>>>>
<mailto:<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>
Thanks guys, I'll check
the Apple refurbished
and the Newegg site.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Mike
M<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On
4/14/2020 1:25 AM, Tyler
Juranek wrote:<br>
>>>>> Hi
Mike,<br>
>>>>>
Have you ever thought
about trying Newegg? I
don't know if<br>
>>>> they
sell<br>
>>>>>
Apple products, but I'll
tell you my story.<br>
>>>>>
Back in 2015, I bought
an HP probook. One of my
buddies is an<br>
>>>>>
assistive tech dealer.
Since I am visually
impaired, I thought<br>
>>>> I'd
be<br>
>>>>>
nice and give him some
business, even though I
can go buy a<br>
>>>>
computer<br>
>>>>> and
set it up myself.<br>
>>>>>
Anyway, I used the
livin' crap out of it.
Jump ahead to<br>
>>>>
December of<br>
>>>>>
2019. Windows 7 was
about to go bye bye in
January. I thought<br>
>>>> I
would<br>
>>>>>
just upgrade the one I
had. Wrong.<br>
>>>>>
Since I am a power user,
I knew a new computer
was in order.<br>
>>>> I
needed<br>
>>>>>
something powerful, as
not only do I do the
basics, but I host an<br>
>>>>>
internet radio program,
broadcast live events,
do the books for my<br>
>>>>>
business, etc. So I
called HP. For
everything I needed, the<br>
>>>>
thing was<br>
>>>>>
going to be 3 grand! I
got on Newegg and bought
the same exact<br>
>>>>>
computer for $1100. I am
very happy with it now.
I would check on<br>
>>>>>
Newegg for a tablet like
your wife wants. I would
bet they<br>
>>>> have
it.<br>
>>>>>
Tractor note: I really
need to get the Oliver
770 out and<br>
>>>>
ready to go<br>
>>>>> for
the rides this summer,
but its to cold and
rainy to do so.<br>
>>>>>
Good Luck,<br>
>>>>>
Tyler Juranek<br>
>>>>>
IA<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> On
4/13/20, Mike M <<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a><br>
>>>>
<mailto:<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>>>>>>
Note, my wife has no
idea that this is
coming, I just hear<br>
>>>> her
complain<br>
>>>>>>
about it enough to know
she needs a new one. I
have a love/hate<br>
>>>>>>
relationship with Apple,
yes they work, but man
are they spendy.<br>
>>>>>>
<br>
>>>>>>
Mike M<br>
>>>>>>
<br>
>>>>>>
On 4/13/2020 10:33 PM,
Chuck Bealke wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> Five years ago Shirlee bought a 12” iPad. I
thought it too<br>
>>>> big
and pricey<br>
>>>>>>> but withheld comment. Good thing. Ever
since she has spent<br>
>>>> a
good part of<br>
>>>>>>> her day with it and loves it for all kinds
of things. Even<br>
>>>>
lugged it along<br>
>>>>>>> on a round the world trip (ignoring my
advice) and had WiFi<br>
>>>> on
ship and<br>
>>>>>>> hotels for most of trip.<br>
>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cecil
Bearden<br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>
<mailto:<a
href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>> My experience after 40 years of
marriage in August is
just<br>
>>>> pony
up the<br>
>>>>>>>> money to let her buy what she wants and
don't try to<br>
>>>>
influence her<br>
>>>>>>>> decision. That way if the one she gets
is obsolete or has<br>
>>>> to
be changed<br>
>>>>>>>> in the next 6 months It shouldn't be
your fault. Note I
said<br>
>>>>>>>> Shouldn't.................<br>
>>>>>>>> Cecil<br>
>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 5:37 PM, Spencer Yost
wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> Along the same lines your cell
carrier might have
specials<br>
>>>> on
tablets as<br>
>>>>>>>>> part of phone and/or contract
renewal promotions. You<br>
>>>>
might want to look<br>
>>>>>>>>> into that. I am with AT&T and
I know I just heard of a<br>
>>>> deal
where if<br>
>>>>>>>>> you buy an iPhone at your renewal
the pad was free or <br>
>>>> real
cheap.<br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>> Of course, as is usual with my
luck, the deal comes out<br>
>>>> just
a few<br>
>>>>>>>>> months after we traded/renews my
wife’s iPhone...<br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:43
PM, Claude Kyker<br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:claudekyker@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">claudekyker@gmail.com</a>
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>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Something to be aware of is
whether to get “WIFI
only “<br>
>>>> or
get one<br>
>>>>>>>>>> that is capable of using
cellular data. WIFI only
is good<br>
>>>> when
you have<br>
>>>>>>>>>> access to WIFI, cellular data
can be used anywhere cel<br>
>>>>
signal is<br>
>>>>>>>>>> available. Not saying what you
need, just making sure
you<br>
>>>> are
aware.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>> Claude<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:42
PM, Mike M <<a
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target="_blank"
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>>>>
<mailto:<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
target="_blank"
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wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh, not what I wanted to
hear, but it sounds like
a<br>
>>>>
newer Apple is<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> way to go. All their work
computers are Windows
based<br>
>>>> and
sometimes<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> they<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> just don't play together
well.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike M<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 4:08
PM, Henry Miller wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are not many
choices.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google has decided that
androids are phones and
so the<br>
>>>>
tablet<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> offerings have a bit of
a not quite there feel.
They<br>
>>>>
work, but there<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> are rough edges
depending on how the
specific<br>
>>>>
manufacturer supports<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it (Samsung might okay
as they have budget).
Google<br>
>>>>
wants to push the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome platform but
that is targeted at
laptops and low<br>
>>>>
powered<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop and so again as
a tablet it can work but
might<br>
>>>> be
rough<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> edges.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard good things
about the Microsoft
surface<br>
>>>>
line, it again is<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a laptop but reports
are it is an okay tablet
when you<br>
>>>>
detach the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. Reports all
agree though, a lot of
the<br>
>>>>
hardware lacks<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> robustness and will
break if you look at it
wrong. Pay<br>
>>>>
extra for<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> business class and get
a good brand.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are also Linux
tablets, but even the
enthusiasts<br>
>>>>
admit they are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not ready for real use.
This might actually
change this<br>
>>>>
year, we will<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> see...<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is why the iPad
is the tablet most
people with a<br>
>>>>
tablet get.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing else is there.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
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