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    <p>Most new SSDs and other hard drives are SATA (Serial ATA) the
      replacement for IDE hard drives. I have laptops here with SATA and
      IDE drive connections. Same for desktops. I would jump on a $25
      120Gb SSD. they are faster than a 7200 rpm hard drive and no
      moving parts. Way better than any hard drive I have ever had.</p>
    <p>Phil in TX<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2020 9:58 AM, Stephen Offiler
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Google will have my answer but I'm working right now and
          don't want to waste time going down any rabbit holes.  My
          question is how the SSD's connect.  USB?  If so,  do they need
          2.0, 3.0?</div>
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        <div>SO</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:40
          AM Gunnells, Brad R <<a
            href="mailto:brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">brad-gunnells@uiowa.edu</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">An
              SSD will really breath new life into old hardware.
              Especially laptops. Many laptop hard drives are 5400 RPM
              instead of 7200 like most desktops. (or at least that's
              what I'd seen several years ago).</div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">SSD
              drives have come down in price and a 120GB can be found
              for under $30 and a 240GB for under $50.</div>
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            <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">So
              an SSD and linux OS can take what was a paper weight and
              make it a fairly usable machine for most peoples use. It's
              what I call a form of recycling. 
              <span id="gmail-m_-1716128801797113508🙂">🙂</span></div>
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              dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"
                face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> AT <<a
                  href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                on behalf of Stephen Offiler <<a
                  href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:10 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a
                  href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [AT] OT — Tablet
                computers</font>
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              <div dir="ltr">That sounds like a good plan, Charlie. 
                You're another strong member of the list of people that
                nudged me into Linux, for sure.  I haven't committed to
                spending any money on this rig as yet, but if I want to
                work around a questionable HD, an SSD sounds like the
                right approach.  120GB is a ton for my needs.  Mostly
                doing work on the laptop, so data storage is on the
                work servers.  I don't store a lot of data in any
                event... just looked at my iMac (home use) and my 1TB
                drive has 850GB free, the majority being OS and apps,
                not data.
                <div><br>
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                <div>Thanks again,</div>
                <div>SO</div>
                <div><br>
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              <br>
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:24 AM cgs <<a
                    href="mailto:oxygenfarm@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">oxygenfarm@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div><font size="+1">On all my machines I've installed
                      a 120GB SSD for the Mint OS, then used the
                      original HD as backup and storage. Very fast!</font><br>
                    <br>
                    <div>On 4/16/20 6:52 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Hi Bob:
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I started here:  <a
                            href="https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php</a></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I chose "Mate" based on recommendations
                          from ATIS folks.  <br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Once I had the file downloaded, I used
                          balenaEtcher to make a bootable thumb drive:  <a
                            href="https://www.balena.io/etcher/"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.balena.io/etcher/</a></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I plugged said thumb drive into the laptop
                          and bam, I'm looking at Linux.  Some machines,
                          not mine, will need you to F12 or something
                          like that during initial startup in order to
                          point to the thumb rather than the HD.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>It appears you're up and running off the
                          thumb, but I eventually learned it was
                          actually just loading an installable copy of
                          the OS into RAM.  You can do what looks like
                          work straight from there, but anything you do
                          is lost on power-down.  I eventually decided
                          to install and partition my HD for dual-boot. 
                          My HD has been wonky in the past but right now
                          it seems to be fine and dandy and I don't even
                          recall what the problems used to be; might not
                          have been the HD at all.  As yet I haven't
                          really customized the install much, so it will
                          be no big deal to go back and start over,
                          reformatting the HD and dumping the XP
                          partition.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>SO</div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div>
                        <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 8:11 PM <a
                            href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                            rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a> <<a
                            href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="auto">Steve
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I am going to try it. Where did you get
                              Linux Mint 19.3?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Bob<br>
                              <br>
                              <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
                              <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                <blockquote type="cite">On Apr 14, 2020,
                                  at 5:47 PM, Stephen Offiler <<a
                                    href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div dir="ltr">Go for it Bob!  I am
                                    now doing my level best to work from
                                    home as much as possible, which is
                                    tough when you're a CNC guy, they
                                    don't travel well ;-)  I am just
                                    reorganizing work flow so all the
                                    paperwork comes home with me and I'm
                                    only in the shop to be on the
                                    floor.  At home my iMac becomes the
                                    portal to my Windowns workstation at
                                    work, which runs Solidworks and the
                                    management software.  It left me
                                    wanting a separate screen for email,
                                    spreadsheets, word processing.  I
                                    installed Linux Mint 19.3 Mate
                                    Edition on a Dell laptop that was
                                    top of the line in 2008, and it
                                    works like a charm.  Learning curve
                                    is minimal. I'd say I was productive
                                    with it the same day.  
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Steve O.</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                  <div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 14, 2020
                                      at 5:38 PM <a
                                        href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a> <<a
                                        href="mailto:rbrooks@hvc.rr.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">rbrooks@hvc.rr.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      Mike<br>
                                      <br>
                                      I have two ipads. One older one
                                      2012 or 13 vintage  We bought it
                                      for my daighter gor college and a
                                      new work one.  The older one is
                                      slso slow snd will not run a lot
                                      of the newer programs, excuse me
                                      “Apps”. Both ate WiFi only  the
                                      new one runs with no issues. The
                                      older one is slow and cluncky. 
                                      That started with some of the
                                      layer firmware. Sort of like
                                      running windows 7<br>
                                      <br>
                                      All the computers here are
                                      microsoft. Except for 2 older
                                      laptops that the group has me
                                      convinced I should try linux on<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Bob<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Sent from my iPhone<br>
                                      <br>
                                      > On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:48 PM,
                                      <a
                                        href="mailto:szabelski@wildblue.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        szabelski@wildblue.net</a>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > Mike,<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > If your wife’s I-pad is seven
                                      years old, she doesn’t have the
                                      latest OS, which is why she’s
                                      probably running slow and getting
                                      all the ads. My wife and I both
                                      have newer I-pads, and we don’t
                                      have that issue. Our only issue is
                                      that we have to get our internet
                                      through a dish since we can’t get
                                      any cable out here.<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > My wife’s older I-pad had the
                                      same issues before we up greased.<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > Carl<br>
                                      > ----- Original Message -----<br>
                                      > From: Mike M <<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>><br>
                                      > To: <a
                                        href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      > Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2020
                                      16:29:44 -0400 (EDT)<br>
                                      > Subject: Re: [AT] OT — Tablet
                                      computers<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > Thanks Spencer, I will look
                                      for a straight up I-Pad, if they
                                      do offer<br>
                                      > student discounts, my
                                      daughter has an .edu account we
                                      can use. I'm not<br>
                                      > anti Apple per se, but I grew
                                      up on Microsoft in college with
                                      Windows<br>
                                      > using version 3.1. As I
                                      understand it Apple, even though
                                      superior, would<br>
                                      > not grant licensing for their
                                      operating system, so most software
                                      was<br>
                                      > written for Windows. Deep
                                      down, I know that Apple is a
                                      better product,<br>
                                      > but at times it doesn't play
                                      well with others. The reason my
                                      wife's<br>
                                      > I-pad is so slow is that I
                                      cannot find any third party ad
                                      blocking<br>
                                      > software for it. My windows
                                      machine is much faster due to the
                                      fact I can<br>
                                      > run several anti ad ware
                                      blocking programs on it, and
                                      rarely see an ad.<br>
                                      > I had to try and diagnose a
                                      computer problems the other day
                                      and had to<br>
                                      > go back to IE9, to eliminate
                                      the browser as the problem. Holy
                                      crap, if I<br>
                                      > had to put up with that many
                                      ad's and popups everyday, I
                                      wouldn't use<br>
                                      > the Internet.<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > Thanks,<br>
                                      > Mike M<br>
                                      > <br>
                                      >> On 4/14/2020 4:12 PM,
                                      Spencer Yost wrote:<br>
                                      >> First off:  great gift
                                      idea.   I’m sure she’ll appreciate
                                      it.<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >>  Apple keeps a really
                                      tight control on prices and their
                                      partners can’t<br>
                                      >> undercut them by much. 
                                      The few bucks you might save at
                                      Newegg may not<br>
                                      >> be worth it since Apple
                                      presale support is pretty good. In
                                      addition if<br>
                                      >> you buy from Apple I
                                      understand they take trade-ins. At
                                      least get some<br>
                                      >> credit on your wife’s
                                      current iPad.<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >> Also get the model that
                                      is just “iPad“. There is an iPad
                                      Pro, iPad<br>
                                      >> Air, etc. Just the
                                      straight up iPad is what you need.
                                      32 GB model<br>
                                      >> should be plenty as well
                                      since she doesn’t use the camera. 
                                        Might<br>
                                      >> want to double check her
                                      current usage tho to be sure. 
                                       She might<br>
                                      >> also start using the
                                      camera when she sees how good the
                                      camera has gotten.<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >> Connectors have changed
                                      quite a bit over the years. If she
                                      has any<br>
                                      >> devices she wants to
                                      plug-in you might need to check on
                                      getting an<br>
                                      >> adapter.   I guess that
                                      can come after the unwrapping.<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >> As an aside:  I’ve been
                                      doing software for a living for a
                                      long time<br>
                                      >> and I have never
                                      understood many folks reluctance
                                      to use Apple<br>
                                      >> products. Sure, they are
                                      expensive. But they’re really good
                                      products<br>
                                      >> and Apple is more likely
                                      than any other vendor to support
                                      their<br>
                                      >> customers, back their
                                      product and protect your privacy.
                                      Those are<br>
                                      >> important things to me.
                                      Full disclosure:  I have a
                                      personal Mac and a<br>
                                      >> work Mac.<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >> Good luck!<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >> Spencer<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >> Sent from my iPhone<br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >>>> On Apr 14, 2020,
                                      at 3:29 PM, Mike M <<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>>  So I'm an Apple
                                      newb, and prefer to stay that way.
                                      I have always<br>
                                      >>> found that I get the
                                      most bang for my computer buck if
                                      I buy last<br>
                                      >>> years latest and
                                      greatest, when the purist need the
                                      absolute latest<br>
                                      >>> model. She doesn't
                                      use the camera, so that's a
                                      feature that I'm not<br>
                                      >>> concerned about. What
                                      model has the fastest processing
                                      speed, and<br>
                                      >>> will give me the most
                                      bang for my buck?<br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>> Thanks,<br>
                                      >>> Mike M<br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>> On 4/14/2020 12:44
                                      PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
                                      >>>> I made the
                                      mistake of looking at Newegg...,
                                      now I want an iPad!<br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>> SO<br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>> On Tue, Apr 14,
                                      2020 at 12:24 PM Mike M <<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a><br>
                                      >>>> <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    Thanks guys,
                                      I'll check the Apple refurbished
                                      and the Newegg site.<br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    Mike M<br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    On 4/14/2020
                                      1:25 AM, Tyler Juranek wrote:<br>
                                      >>>>> Hi Mike,<br>
                                      >>>>>    Have you
                                      ever thought about trying Newegg?
                                      I don't know if<br>
                                      >>>>    they sell<br>
                                      >>>>> Apple
                                      products, but I'll tell you my
                                      story.<br>
                                      >>>>>    Back in
                                      2015, I bought an HP probook. One
                                      of my buddies is an<br>
                                      >>>>> assistive
                                      tech dealer. Since I am visually
                                      impaired, I thought<br>
                                      >>>>    I'd be<br>
                                      >>>>> nice and give
                                      him some business, even though I
                                      can go buy a<br>
                                      >>>>    computer<br>
                                      >>>>> and set it up
                                      myself.<br>
                                      >>>>>    Anyway, I
                                      used the livin' crap out of it.
                                      Jump ahead to<br>
                                      >>>>    December of<br>
                                      >>>>> 2019. Windows
                                      7 was about to go bye bye in
                                      January. I thought<br>
                                      >>>>    I would<br>
                                      >>>>> just upgrade
                                      the one I had. Wrong.<br>
                                      >>>>>    Since I am
                                      a power user, I knew a new
                                      computer was in order.<br>
                                      >>>>    I needed<br>
                                      >>>>> something
                                      powerful, as not only do I do the
                                      basics, but I host an<br>
                                      >>>>> internet
                                      radio program, broadcast live
                                      events, do the books for my<br>
                                      >>>>> business,
                                      etc. So I called HP. For
                                      everything I needed, the<br>
                                      >>>>    thing was<br>
                                      >>>>> going to be 3
                                      grand! I got on Newegg and bought
                                      the same exact<br>
                                      >>>>> computer for
                                      $1100. I am very happy with it
                                      now. I would check on<br>
                                      >>>>> Newegg for a
                                      tablet like your wife wants. I
                                      would bet they<br>
                                      >>>>    have it.<br>
                                      >>>>>    Tractor
                                      note: I really need to get the
                                      Oliver 770 out and<br>
                                      >>>>    ready to go<br>
                                      >>>>> for the rides
                                      this summer, but its to cold and
                                      rainy to do so.<br>
                                      >>>>>    Good Luck,<br>
                                      >>>>>    Tyler
                                      Juranek<br>
                                      >>>>>    IA<br>
                                      >>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>> On 4/13/20,
                                      Mike M <<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      >>>>>> Note, my
                                      wife has no idea that this is
                                      coming, I just hear<br>
                                      >>>>    her complain<br>
                                      >>>>>> about it
                                      enough to know she needs a new
                                      one. I have a love/hate<br>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      relationship with Apple, yes they
                                      work, but man are they spendy.<br>
                                      >>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>> Mike M<br>
                                      >>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>> On
                                      4/13/2020 10:33 PM, Chuck Bealke
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      >>>>>>> Five
                                      years ago Shirlee bought a 12”
                                      iPad. I thought it too<br>
                                      >>>>    big and pricey<br>
                                      >>>>>>> but
                                      withheld comment. Good thing. 
                                      Ever since she has spent<br>
                                      >>>>    a good part of<br>
                                      >>>>>>> her
                                      day with it and loves it for all
                                      kinds of things. Even<br>
                                      >>>>    lugged it
                                      along<br>
                                      >>>>>>> on a
                                      round the world trip (ignoring my
                                      advice) and had WiFi<br>
                                      >>>>    on ship and<br>
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      hotels for most of trip.<br>
                                      >>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cecil
                                      Bearden<br>
                                      >>>>    <<a
                                        href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>
                                      <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>>>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      >>>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      My experience after 40 years of
                                      marriage in August is just<br>
                                      >>>>    pony up the<br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      money to let her buy what she
                                      wants and don't try to<br>
                                      >>>>    influence her<br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      decision.  That way if the one she
                                      gets is obsolete or has<br>
                                      >>>>    to be changed<br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      in the next 6 months It shouldn't
                                      be your fault.   Note I said<br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      Shouldn't.................<br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      Cecil<br>
                                      >>>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 5:37 PM, Spencer Yost
                                      wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> Along the same lines your cell
                                      carrier might have specials<br>
                                      >>>>    on tablets as<br>
>>>>>>>>> part of phone and/or contract
                                      renewal promotions. You<br>
                                      >>>>    might want to
                                      look<br>
>>>>>>>>> into that.  I am with AT&T and
                                      I know I just heard of a<br>
                                      >>>>    deal where if<br>
>>>>>>>>> you buy an iPhone at your renewal
                                      the pad was free or <br>
                                      >>>>    real cheap.<br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>> Of course, as is usual with my
                                      luck, the deal comes out<br>
                                      >>>>    just a few<br>
>>>>>>>>> months after we traded/renews my
                                      wife’s iPhone...<br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:43
                                      PM, Claude Kyker<br>
                                      >>>>    <<a
                                        href="mailto:claudekyker@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">claudekyker@gmail.com</a>
                                      <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:claudekyker@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">claudekyker@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Something to be aware of is
                                      whether to get “WIFI only “<br>
                                      >>>>    or get one<br>
>>>>>>>>>> that is capable of using
                                      cellular data. WIFI only is good<br>
                                      >>>>    when you have<br>
>>>>>>>>>> access to WIFI,  cellular data
                                      can be used anywhere cel<br>
                                      >>>>    signal is<br>
>>>>>>>>>> available. Not saying what you
                                      need, just making sure you<br>
                                      >>>>    are aware.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>> Claude<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:42
                                      PM, Mike M <<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>>
                                      wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ugh, not what I wanted to
                                      hear, but it sounds like a<br>
                                      >>>>    newer Apple is<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> way to go. All their work
                                      computers are Windows based<br>
                                      >>>>    and sometimes<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> they<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> just don't play together
                                      well.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike M<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 4:08
                                      PM, Henry Miller wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are not many
                                      choices.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google has decided that
                                      androids are phones and so the<br>
                                      >>>>    tablet<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> offerings have a bit of
                                      a not quite there feel. They<br>
                                      >>>>    work, but
                                      there<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> are rough edges
                                      depending on how the specific<br>
                                      >>>>    manufacturer
                                      supports<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it (Samsung might okay
                                      as they have budget). Google<br>
                                      >>>>    wants to push
                                      the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome platform but
                                      that is targeted at laptops and
                                      low<br>
                                      >>>>    powered<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop and so again as
                                      a tablet it can work but might<br>
                                      >>>>    be rough<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> edges.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard good things
                                      about the Microsoft surface<br>
                                      >>>>    line, it again
                                      is<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a laptop but reports
                                      are it is an okay tablet when you<br>
                                      >>>>    detach the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. Reports all
                                      agree though, a lot of the<br>
                                      >>>>    hardware lacks<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> robustness and will
                                      break if you look at it wrong. Pay<br>
                                      >>>>    extra for<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> business class and get
                                      a good brand.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are also Linux
                                      tablets, but even the enthusiasts<br>
                                      >>>>    admit they are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not ready for real use.
                                      This might actually change this<br>
                                      >>>>    year, we will<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> see...<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is why the iPad
                                      is the tablet most people with a<br>
                                      >>>>    tablet get.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing else is there.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked
                                      for viruses by Avast<br>
                                      >>>>    antivirus
                                      software.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <a
                                        href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
>>>>>>>>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> AT mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>> AT mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>> AT mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>>>>>>>
                                      AT mailing list<br>
                                      >>>>>>>> <a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                                      >>>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>>>>>> AT
                                      mailing list<br>
                                      >>>>>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                                      >>>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>> --<br>
                                      >>>>>> This
                                      email has been checked for viruses
                                      by Avast antivirus<br>
                                      >>>>    software.<br>
                                      >>>>>> <a
                                        href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br>
                                      >>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>>>>> AT
                                      mailing list<br>
                                      >>>>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>    <mailto:<a
href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                                      >>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>>>> AT mailing
                                      list<br>
                                      >>>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
                                      <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                                      >>>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>>    --<br>
                                      >>>>    This email has
                                      been checked for viruses by Avast
                                      antivirus software.<br>
                                      >>>>    <a
                                        href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>>   
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>>>    AT mailing
                                      list<br>
                                      >>>>    <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
                                      <mailto:<a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                                      >>>>    <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>> <br>
                                      >>>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>>> AT mailing list<br>
                                      >>>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>>> <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
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                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>> <<a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon</a>><br>
                                      >>>    Virus-free. <a
                                        href="http://www.avast.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        www.avast.com</a><br>
                                      >>> <<a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link</a>><br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>> <br>
                                      >>>
                                      <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><br>
                                      >>>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >>> AT mailing list<br>
                                      >>> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >>> <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >> <br>
                                      >>
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      >> AT mailing list<br>
                                      >> <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      >> <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > <br>
                                      > --<br>
                                      > This email has been checked
                                      for viruses by Avast antivirus
                                      software.<br>
                                      > <a
                                        href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br>
                                      > <br>
                                      >
                                      _______________________________________________<br>
                                      > AT mailing list<br>
                                      > <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      > <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                      AT mailing list<br>
                                      <a
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                      <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                    </blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                  <span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
                                  <span>AT mailing list</span><br>
                                  <span><a
                                      href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a></span><br>
                                  <span><a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></span><br>
                                </div>
                              </blockquote>
                            </div>
                          </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
                          AT mailing list<br>
                          <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                          <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <br>
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                      <pre>_______________________________________________
AT mailing list
<a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
<a href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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                    <pre cols="72">-- 
Charlie</pre>
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                  _______________________________________________<br>
                  AT mailing list<br>
                  <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                  <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          AT mailing list<br>
          <a href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
          <a
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br>
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AT mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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