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    <p>I have a 2003 F-150 4wd that had a broke cross member and a
      clicking that sounded like the air conditioner clutch.  At this
      time I was having work done as my back was killing me.  Mechanic
      replaced A/C clutch and it still clicked.  He said drive it till
      it quits.  Last time I ever used him....  Took it to Transmission
      shop and $600 later it had a new flex plate.  Had to weld up cross
      member under transmission tail.  6 months later had to rebuild
      transmission.  $2300 and I pulled a trailer about 150 miles and
      when I got back the flex plate clicking again.  It was during
      Christmas of 2018.  Trans guy was on vacation.  It  still sits
      here as I had t o use it to feed cattle with and have not had time
      to make appt. o get flex plate replaced.  F-150 torque converters
      expand if they get hot and break the flex plate.  <br>
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    <p>Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/6/2020 1:05 PM, Ken Knierim wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Really reaching a bit here... I had a persistent
        rattling noise I chased in my Blazer. It made enough racket that
        the spark retard system would kick the timing back. Tried all
        kinds of things; kept thinking it was a rod or something. I
        finally got an engine to upgrade from the 305 to a 383 (stroker
        350). When I tore it apart, I found the bolts on the torque
        converter to the flex plate had slipped and were rattling. Had
        to replace the flexplate to fix it but the noise sounded in the
        engine and wasn't. 
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        <div>Yours sounds like a particular cylinder from the video but
          is it possible there's something loose in the bell housing?</div>
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        <div>Ken in AZ</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:40
          AM Dave Maynard <<a href="mailto:dave@themaplehillfarm.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">dave@themaplehillfarm.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Actually, did not check length of connecting
            rod and its clearance from head at TDC. But it's not
            traveling to close to the head as there would be damage
            showing. Just have this new concern about the wrong rod
            being put in by mistake, but that would have been short, not
            long.
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            <div dir="auto">Dave</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 1:01
              PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> When you had it apart, did you
                check all the piston,ring and bearing clearances?<br>
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                Mike M<br>
                <br>
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                <div>On 4/6/2020 11:35 AM, Dave Maynard wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">No sleeves in this engine. Someone had
                    this engine apart before and #5 had a new piston and
                    rod and bearings. The seller said it was his
                    father's tractor since new and never been
                    apart....he lied! There was more RTV on oil pan than
                    you could imagine and obviously that piston and rod
                    and bearings had been replaced and I thought they
                    had been chasing the noise. Unless there was some
                    other reason, but dont know. 
                    <div dir="auto">     My friend and mechanic help has
                      a Jacobson mower he's is rebuilding that has a 4
                      cylinder version of this motor that appears
                      identical except the number of cyl's. He found the
                      rod to be the same except it a tweak shorter by an
                      almost immeasurable amount, maybe .005 or .010.
                      Part number is almost the same except last digit
                      and now I'm wondering if that could be someone's
                      mistake. Would shorter rod cause preignition? By
                      the way, there is no part number on the rods so
                      they would have to be accurately measured.</div>
                    <div dir="auto">     It's going to be a bit before I
                      can get this back apart again, but hoping to have
                      this fixed in time to plow.</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">Dave</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 6,
                      2020, 9:08 AM Cecil Bearden <<a
                        href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
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                      wrote:<br>
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                        <p>That was one of my thoughts, but my
                          experience has been that the liner movement
                          was a double "thud" once on down stroke and
                          once on upstroke.  <br>
                          Cecil<br>
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                        <div>On 4/6/2020 1:12 AM, <a
                            href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com" rel="noreferrer
                            noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">k7jdj@aol.com</a>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div> <font size="2">Cylinder liner loose. 
                                Don't know if this engine even has
                                cylinder liners if it does and that
                                liner is moving you would get click. Did
                                you look carefully at the head when you
                                had it off and look for any sign of head
                                distress?</font></div>
                            <div><font size="2">I would do a compression
                                check as well.</font></div>
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                            <div><font size="2">Gary</font></div>
                            <div><font size="2"><br>
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                            <div><font size="2">Renton, WA.</font><br>
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                              Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2020 7:43 pm<br>
                              Subject: Re: [AT] Kubota M5700 noise<br>
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                                        <div>On Apr 5, 2020, at 9:59 PM,
                                          Dave Maynard <<a
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                                        <div><span
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Have
                                            cracked injector lines one
                                            at a time, and it gets
                                            quieter on #5</span></div>
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                                  <div>But only on #5?</div>
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                                  <div>When you crack the others the
                                    engine misses, but the noise
                                    remains?</div>
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                                  <div>I wonder if something about
                                    cylinder 5 is somehow different so
                                    that the compression is higher, and
                                    so it’s igniting (pre-igniting) too
                                    much before top dead centre in just
                                    that cylinder?</div>
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                                  <div>Eg #5 piston slightly higher than
                                    the other 4?</div>
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                                  <div>Roger</div>
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