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<DIV>The Mahindra rep doesn’t even say they intend to make the Roxor street
legal. The article indicates he says words to the effect he “<SPAN
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vehicles in the U.S. market</FONT></SPAN>”. The article also paraphrases
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color=#232323 face=Georgia>a small van, something other automakers don't offer
in this market, might be the way to expand the brand here</FONT></SPAN>”.</DIV>
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<DIV>That is a long way from detailing any design changes to make the Roxor
compliant.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Becker</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:51 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=soffiler@gmail.com>Stephen Offiler</A> ; <A
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] OT Right to repair</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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the North American market is important to Mahindra's corporate direction
can be seen from the fact that Pawan Goenka, the managing director of
parent company Mahindra and Mahindra Limited, gave some insight into the
firm's U.S. plans to the Detroit News.. Brand awareness is a key place to
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face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> AT
<at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of Stephen Offiler
<soffiler@gmail.com><BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 8, 2020 9:04
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<at@lists.antique-tractor.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] Right to
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<DIV dir=ltr>Yeah, right. Making a Roxor legal has zero to do with
political support. The laws that every other manufacturer has to follow
are crystal-clear. Emissions compliance and safety compliance.
Period.</DIV>
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<DIV class=x_gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Peck
<<A>jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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has been making noises about setting up a manufacturing plant in Flint. I am a
little suspicious that they are just trying to get political support for
making the Roxor street lega. </SPAN></DIV>
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AT <<A target=_blank>at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</A>> on behalf
of Mike M <<A target=_blank>meulenms@gmx.com</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Sunday, March 8, 2020 12:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">When I was looking at a small
compact tractor, I had a choice between a Kubota 39 horse or a Mahindra 40
horse. I drove both and liked them both, Kubota makes a nice machine. When we
sat down to talk numbers, the salesman, (same dealership franchise) said if I
liked them both he would opt for the year older Mahindra with a Tier III
engine vs the Kubota that had a Tier IV engine. Mind you this was at least 5
years ago, but he said that the Tier IV engines where coming in with problems
his techs did not have the knowledge or equipment to fix. If they are not run
hard, they go into regen mode and you have to put them at full throttle
and let it run that way for 30 minutes to clean the filter. Not sure if this
is still the case, I suspect not, but at the time it made my choice easy. My
Tier III is all mechanical, which means that if I can't fix it any diesel
mechanic would have no problem with it, no electronics or computer for the
engine. <BR><BR>Mike M<BR><BR>
<DIV>On 3/8/2020 10:53 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>That will get you about 16 years of AlldataDIY, which I highly
recommend vs the printed manual.
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target=_blank>https://www.alldatadiy.com/buy/</A><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:45 AM James Peck <<A
target=_blank>jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Ralph Goff <<A target=_blank>alfg@sasktel.net</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV>On 2019-11-21 6:10 a.m., <A target=_blank>bradloomis@charter.net</A>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P>Not being a farmer but a maintenance mechanic who repairs all manner
of items I’ve read with interest the comments on this list about “Right
to repair” and the big manufacturers. Today’s NY Times has an editorial
on just that as it relates to the military. Our tax dollars at work,
against us. Not sure, you may need a subscription to read but jeez, what
a mess. Send equipment back to the States from the battlefield because
the Marines can’t repair their equipment. </P>
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<P>Brad</P></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>That is just one more reason I'm happy to be running older machinery
and vehicles built before y2k. <BR></P>
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