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    Since the subject has come up....  <br>
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    My first computer was a Xerox 820 II that I built from parts after a
    friend gave me a bare system board.  I installed it in a Televideo
    terminal case, with 2 8" floppies, 2 5 1/4 floppies, and a 60 meg
    hard drive running cp/m.  <br>
    <br>
    Used that until I replaced it with a Wyse 486 based computer running
    ms dos or Digital Research concurrent dos (and later windows 3.1).<br>
    <br>
    Now a days I am running Debian linux on my home workstation and
    servers (with one lonely Centos 4 server running on a PIII computer.
    I really need to replace it, but it has been running nonstop (except
    for power outages and moving it a few time) the last 18 years or
    so...).<br>
    <br>
    As for a tractor reference, I keep a fair amount of digital manuals
    for older equipment on the system, and for the 8N I have in the
    garage.  <br>
    <br>
    Howard<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/20 12:40 PM, Jim Becker wrote:<br>
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          <div>This is getting pretty far from a discussion of loading
            Linux onto/from a memory stick.  The first computer I worked
            on (professionally in 1974) was a Datapoint 2200.  It had a
            16K main memory and a 2.5M hard disk drive.  I only had
            those luxuries for development.  My deliverable had to load
            from a cassette tape and run on a machine with only 8K of
            memory and no disk drive.</div>
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          <div>Here is the wiki description of the computer, a
            worthwhile read for computer nerds.</div>
          <div><a title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datapoint_2200"
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          <div>Jim Becker</div>
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                    title="markjohnson100@centurylink.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Mark Johnson</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 07, 2020 7:42 AM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a title="at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] OT- Computer help please</div>
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            <p>The first minicomputer I worked on (an NCR 8200) was
              designed for a small office with 2-4 users and had 128 K
              RAM (core memory, no less) and 10 MB of hard disks (2
              14-inch platters, that took somewhere between 90 seconds
              and 2 minutes to spin up).<br>
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            <p>The core memory was actually pretty handy...I could kill
              the power at the end of a work day and just turn it on the
              next morning. Memory was preserved and the system just
              behaved as if it had gone through a power glitch.</p>
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            <p>It probably had about as much compute power as that Tandy
              Model 4. External data storage (and system boot) were via
              a cassette drive.<br>
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            <p>Mark J<br>
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            <p> </p>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2020 7:19 AM, cgs wrote:<br>
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              type="cite"><font size="+1">My Tandy Model 4 (1982) had
                64k RAM and one 5 1/4" floppy drive.</font><br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/20 8:16 AM, James Peck
                wrote:<br>
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                    what happens when I do not include a link.</span></div>
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                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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                    first Compaq 386 bought in 1987 had a 40 MB hard
                    drive.</span></div>
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                    color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AT <a
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                    on behalf of Mike M <a
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                    <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 7, 2020 12:06 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] OT- Computer help please</font>
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                <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">MB or GB? I
                  bought a 16GB (smallest they had) for about $5 at our
                  local grocery store.<br>
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                  Mike M<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 3/6/2020 11:14 PM,
                    James Peck wrote:<br>
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                        bought a 256MB USB stick for $25.99 about a
                        month back. I went to buy another today. They
                        were out of 256MB and 128MB. Is that due to
                        Covid-19 or trade negotiations.</span></div>
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                        sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AT <a
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                          moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
                        on behalf of Alan Riley <a
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                          moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:arr44@suddenlink.net</a><br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 6, 2020 11:34 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a
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                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] OT- Computer help
                        please</font>
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                          <div class="x_PlainText">I used this procedure
                            to install Linux Mint 19.3 from the memory
                            stick <br>
                            onto my laptop (uefi as<br>
                            opposed to legacy bios) in a dual boot
                            configuration with Windows 10.  <br>
                            It worked very well.<br>
                            <br>
                            <a
href="https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-mint-alongside-windows-dual-boot-uefi-mode/"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-mint-alongside-windows-dual-boot-uefi-mode/</a><br>
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                            Alan in Louisiana<br>
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                            On 3/5/2020 8:50 PM, Mike M wrote:<br>
                            > Downloaded Linux Mint onto a memory
                            stick tonight, and so far am very <br>
                            > pleased with what I see. It will take a
                            little learning curve, but it <br>
                            > sure is more snappy than Windows 7.
                            I'll keep playing with it and <br>
                            > learn as I go. I did have to F12 my
                            computer to change to boot <br>
                            > sequence, and after that it was
                            seamless. Tractor reference, I used my <br>
                            > tractor to drag a couple huge Oaks and
                            a couple Black Cherry trees <br>
                            > onto the pavement tonight before some
                            rain set in, and we go into mud <br>
                            > season. Created all kinds of hate and
                            discontent as they were dragged <br>
                            > through the brush and smaller trees.<br>
                            ><br>
                            > Mike M<br>
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