<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size="2">well, if you could put water/heat to them temporarily you could find them. It took less than 5 minutes of heat flow on the pipes I located and that was without circulating pump, just electric hot water tank.</font></div>
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</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Gary</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Renton, WA</font><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden@copper.net><br>
To: at <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 5:58 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [AT] Supposedly why our old tractors are not metric and a fairly simple tutorial<br>
<br>
<div id="yiv2521658711">
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<div>My heat pipes are not hooked up. 2 problems. We tried one
section and heated with 2 electric 40gal hot water tanks.
Electric bill was over $600 !!!! Then the pipes were early pex
that has set in an open warehouse ( supplier"s ) and became
brittle soon after the concrete was poured. I think they will
still be reliable if not moved a lot.. Too much investment in
that heated floor to just abandon it. I picked up a gas ired
swimming pool heater to use for a boiler.<br clear="none">
Cecil<br clear="none">
</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711yqt0496252155" id="yiv2521658711yqt13955">
<div class="yiv2521658711moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2020 5:54 PM, <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com">k7jdj@aol.com</a>
wrote:<br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite">
</blockquote></div>
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<div style="color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size="2">I have a FLIR that I have used to check in
floor heat pipes. Works Great IF the heat is off and then
turned on. So if the floor and pipes are at ground temp and
then the heat applied you will get a fantastic view of the
pipes. My FLIR cost about $1500 several years ago and the
prices have come down. Have used it for electrical
inspections, water leaks, engine exhaust temps, and heated
floor observations . I believe you could rent a FLIR or
find a home inspector that would do it for you for $100 or
so.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Gary</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Renton, WA</font><br clear="none">
</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original
Message-----<br clear="none">
From: Cecil Bearden <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"><crbearden@copper.net></a><br clear="none">
To: at <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br clear="none">
Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 4:21 pm<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [AT] Supposedly why our old tractors are not
metric and a fairly simple tutorial<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div id="yiv2521658711">
<div>
<div>I figured out he meant rent one, but there is not one
in Oklahoma for rent. The closest thing is made by
Zircon and has a depth in concrete of 4-3/4 inches and
is within 1/2 inch of location..... Oklahoma is a third
world country when it comes to technology.<br clear="none">
Cecil<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv2521658711yqt1204272558" id="yiv2521658711yqtfd19911">
<div class="yiv2521658711moz-cite-prefix">On 2/25/2020
3:54 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv2521658711yqt1204272558" id="yiv2521658711yqtfd88955">
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<div dir="ltr">I think he means rent one.
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<div>SO</div>
<div><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv2521658711gmail_quote">
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue,
Feb 25, 2020 at 4:51 PM <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bradloomis@charter.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bradloomis@charter.net">bradloomis@charter.net</a>>
wrote:<br clear="none">
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<blockquote class="yiv2521658711gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">Nice, but
$700 US. Ouch. </div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
AT <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Martin<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 25, 2020
1:41 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email
Discussion Group <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Supposedly why
our old tractors are not metric and a
fairly simple tutorial</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>Surely your local hire company would have
one of these or similar?</div>
<div><a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.bosch-pt.co.nz/nz/en/products/d-tect-150-sv-wallscanner-0601010008">https://www.bosch-pt.co.nz/nz/en/products/d-tect-150-sv-wallscanner-0601010008</a></div>
<div>Tom</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">On 26 February
2020 at 10:31 Cecil Bearden <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net">crbearden@copper.net</a>>
wrote: </div>
<div>I have thought about that, and have an
old and a newer 4 post lift just not
installed. When you work on both trucks
and tractors, the lift can get in the way.
I would like to install the 4 post 30K lift,
but the floor has water pipes for heat under
the slab. We don't know where they are, and
the posts have to have a pier under them.
The floor has 8" piers under the slab,
cannot remember where they are. I thought
of fastening 4' x 4' plates 1in thick to the
floor and then fasten the posts to them.
The floor is reinforced with reinforcing
steel. I need to find the reinforcing in
the floor and try to miss the bars with the
plate anchors. <br clear="none">
Cecil</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
2/25/2020 2:14 PM, Thomas Martin wrote: </div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>Surely a two poster would be a better
bet?</div>
<div>Tom</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">On 26
February 2020 at 08:29 Cecil Bearden <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"><crbearden@copper.net></a>
wrote: </div>
<div>Since I have a spinal problem and now
one worn out stiff knee, getting up and
down under anything is a problem. Once
I get down I have to either make do with
what I have or haul all 300 lbs of
myself up and get what I need then when
I get within a foot of the floor, I
usually just try to fall on something
soft!!!!!! I have seriously been
looking at this creeper made for
aircraft. <span style="color:rgb(51,102,255);"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://ezcreeper.com/">https://ezcreeper.com/</a></span>
I just wish it was available with an
electric pump. I have been looking for
a drill powered hydraulic pump to adapt
to this creeper. <br clear="none">
Cecil</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
2/25/2020 12:56 PM, Ron Cook wrote: </div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>Which is what I do. And danged if
I still don't have the right one!</div>
<div>Ron Cook, Salix, IA</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
2/25/2020 12:47 PM, Stephen Offiler
wrote: </div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">As
a matter of fact I turn 58 today,
and I maintain my physical fitness
to the best of my ability, so
you're probably right in that
regard. But sorry, I reject the
notion that bringing the wrong
wrench is a blood-pressure-raising
event, and I stand fast by my
comment. This simply isn't an
argument against the metric
system. Seriously, just bring
several wrenches...</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">SO</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:28 PM
< <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:deanvp@att.net">deanvp@att.net</a>>
wrote: </div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">Steve,</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">You
may not have reached the age
where getting down and under
a vehicle and then getting
back up is a major effort.
Having the wrong wrench when
I get under there is not a
happy event. Should I give
up DIY wrenching? Not a
chance as long as my body is
still warm. If I didn’t
keep trying to do this stuff
I would have been 6’ under a
long time ago, </div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">Dean
VP</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">Apache
Junction, AZ</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> AT <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
<strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">On Behalf
Of </span></strong>Stephen
Offiler<br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong>
Tuesday, February 25, 2020
8:18 AM<br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">To:</span></strong>
Antique Tractor Email
Discussion Group <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br clear="none">
<strong><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong>
Re: [AT] Supposedly why our
old tractors are not metric
and a fairly simple tutorial</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">You
might want to re-think the
whole DIY wrenching thing
if that's all it takes to
get your blood pressure
up.</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">SO</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">On
Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at
10:13 AM ustonThomas
Mehrkam <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net">tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">It
was a evil plot to sell
us another set of tools.
The proof is I still
need two sets to service
my modern pickup.</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">It sells a lot of blood pressure meds.
Especially when I crawl
under the darn thing
only to find that one
d@m bolt is metric
causing a cussing wrench
throwing fit as I crawl
back out to get that
evil metric wrench.</div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature">Sent
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Mail on Android</a></div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"><span style="font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(109,0,246);">On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at
3:40 AM, Thomas
Martin</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"><span style="font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(109,0,246);"><<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tmartin@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank" href="mailto:tmartin@xtra.co.nz">tmartin@xtra.co.nz</a>>
wrote:</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin-top:7.5pt;">
<div class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"><br clear="none">
> On 25 February
2020 at 17:12 John
Hall <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com">jtchall@nc.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Don't know why
they couldn't change
pipe threads, after
all the rest of <br clear="none">
> the planet uses
60 deg, not 55 for
the British threads.
Can't really see <br clear="none">
> how it is
simpler than what we
use. I mean how
exactly do the
Japanese <br clear="none">
> explain such?
Never seen a German
print in inches
either for that <br clear="none">
> matter. If
metric is so much
better, then go all
in I say.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Well the rest of the
world for a long
time was British or
used British
technology<br clear="none">
before Sellars came
along with his 60º
thread form in the
US. The US wasn't a
great exporter<br clear="none">
at the time,
focusing more on
internal expansion
&
self-sufficiency<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> You missed the
part about leaving
out the bastard pipe
threads, didn't <br clear="none">
> you? We did so
much hydraulic work
at one point that
all I stocked was <br clear="none">
> NPTF, it works
for NPT. As you
know, NPT covers the
vast majority, <br clear="none">
> while NPTF will
cover the majority
of whats left. The
scraps can be left <br clear="none">
> to those who
specialize in
oddities.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Never needed an
IH bearing that I
couldn't source from
wherever. The <br clear="none">
> only roller
bearing I ever
needed that was
manufacture specific
was the <br clear="none">
> plunger bearing
on a New Holland
baler. Motion
industries finally
was <br clear="none">
> able to cross
it, but I couldn't
find it any where
else, not even <br clear="none">
> aftermarket ag
parts. And the
bearing housing had
to come from New <br clear="none">
> Holland,
nothing even close.
That set up cost me
close to $300<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
I think there is a
slight time frame
difference in our
work experience,<br clear="none">
My experience with
Cat, IH, & AC
was in the 60s &
70 and included <br clear="none">
machinery built in
the 50s. Cat &
IH did insist on
bearings that were <br clear="none">
only Cat & IH
inclusive, whereas
AC crawlers that
used more Timken
style<br clear="none">
bearings, could be
sourced from any
bearing supply co.
Five times cheaper<br clear="none">
than Cat Or IH
equivalents.<br clear="none">
An interesting aside
was that, rarely was
there a need for
machining with<br clear="none">
AC, Cat or, IH as
regards remedial
repair of parts.
Good designs leave
little<br clear="none">
room for
improvement.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
> We have an
entire section of
bastard taps at
work, it has just as
many <br clear="none">
> oddball metrics
as it does english.
It all depends on
the industries you <br clear="none">
> support as to
what is in your tool
crib.<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">
Around here, its
fruit and meat
processing. <br clear="none">
At the local Heinz
cannery, all the
peach & pear
lines were American
sourced,<br clear="none">
and the makers
delighted in shaft
sizes like 1-7/16",
1-9/16" &
1-15/16"<br clear="none">
with ODs to match.
Only source was the
manufacturer.<br clear="none">
Another delight was
the spaghetti
extruder, it had a
50hp motor driving <br clear="none">
the extruder through
reduction gears,
every every shaft
was a nominal size +<br clear="none">
a 1/16" Guess where
the bearings had to
come from. It had
one bad design <br clear="none">
fault in that the
heaviest reduction
had no hunting
teeth, and it had
some<br clear="none">
very bad wear
patterns revealed on
dismantling, had a
blank forged in
Australia,<br clear="none">
it was about 600mm
with a 152mm face.
:-)<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> I've found that
engineers don't
always make stuff
weird so you have to
<br clear="none">
> buy from them,
its often so you
don't make a
substitution that <br clear="none">
> compromises the
design. But there
are some that need a
plate glass <br clear="none">
> stomach.....<br clear="none">
"Plate glass
stomach"? <br clear="none">
Don't know that
saying, although I
have modified
modified maker's
efforts<br clear="none">
for the better, when
their designs were
found wanting.
Flattering when they<br clear="none">
come up with the
same improvement...<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Tom<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> John<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> On 2/24/2020
10:41 PM, Thomas
Martin wrote:<br clear="none">
> >> On 25
February 2020 at
15:17 John Hall <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com">jtchall@nc.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
> >><br clear="none">
> >><br clear="none">
> >> Fun
fact. Did you know
metric pipe threads
are actually in
inches? They<br clear="none">
> >> are
actually 55 deg
threadform (British
Whitworth) but the
pitch is in<br clear="none">
> >>
metric. And the real
fun part is that the
rest of the planet
can't even<br clear="none">
> >> decide
how to spec them on
drawing/print/blueprint. Different countries<br clear="none">
> >> have
different
designations for the
same thing. Off the
top of my head,<br clear="none">
> >> I
think there are a
combined 7 different
ways of designating
metric pipe<br clear="none">
> >>
threads (taper and
straight), as
opposed to just 2.
Now we won't split<br clear="none">
> >> hairs
with short
projection, dryseal
or other specialty
threads--lets<br clear="none">
> >> stick
to 99.999% of pipe
threads.<br clear="none">
> >><br clear="none">
> >> FWIW,
I have 30 years in a
machine shop and
have continually
used both<br clear="none">
> >>
english and metric
without an issue.
Its the rest of the
planet that<br clear="none">
> >> makes
a big ordeal out of
it, we just grab a
print and go with
it.<br clear="none">
> >>
English, German,
Japanese--its all
the same--until we
have to use<br clear="none">
> >>
Translate Google to
figure out the
notes.<br clear="none">
> >><br clear="none">
> >> One
more fun fact. Next
time you need some
roller bearings for
your old<br clear="none">
> >>
tractor and start
measuring them only
to find they aren't
exactly<br clear="none">
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english, convert
them to metric--you
might ought to sit
down first.<br clear="none">
> >><br clear="none">
> >> I
won't even get into
European conduit
threads--I've only
had to do them<br clear="none">
> >> twice.<br clear="none">
> >><br clear="none">
> >> John
Hall<br clear="none">
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> > Well, John<br clear="none">
> > Europe did
adopt BSP (British
Standard Pipe)
threads<br clear="none">
> > back in
the 19th century,
difficult to change
horses now.<br clear="none">
> > Quite a
simple setup
compared to the
American system!<br clear="none">
> > Did you
know that the US has
11 diffent
derivatives of<br clear="none">
> > National
Pipe threads?<br clear="none">
> > As for
11-1/2 tpi NPT, I
bet many a lathe
manufacturer<br clear="none">
> > swore when
Norton invented the
quick change gearbox
for<br clear="none">
> > lathes and
provision had to be
made for that.<br clear="none">
> > In fact
would say I have cut
more peculiar
threads of US<br clear="none">
> > origin
that elsewhere.<br clear="none">
> > That goes
for bearings also.
Both Caterpillar and
IH used to<br clear="none">
> > get
bearings, especially
taper-roller, ground
to their<br clear="none">
> > specific
sizes, so that only
they could supply,
at a cost<br clear="none">
> > 5 to 10
times the cost of a
standard size!
Extortionate!<br clear="none">
> >
Competition finally
forced them into
standardization in
the finish.<br clear="none">
> > FMC was
another who engaged
in the practice in
another field.<br clear="none">
> ><br clear="none">
> > Tom<br clear="none">
> >
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