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    <p>It might work, the bay I want to put the lift in is the one with
      the working lines.  I don't remember draining them either...They
      are full of distilled water..  I could heat up the tank and then
      turn on the circulating pump for a few minutes..  .<br>
      Cecil<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2020 12:08 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com">k7jdj@aol.com</a>
      wrote:<br>
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        <div> <font size="2">well, if you could put water/heat to them
            temporarily you could find them.  It took less than 5
            minutes of heat flow on the pipes I located and that was
            without circulating pump, just electric hot water tank.</font></div>
        <div><font size="2"><br>
          </font></div>
        <div><font size="2">Gary</font></div>
        <div><font size="2"><br>
          </font></div>
        <div><font size="2">Renton, WA</font><br>
        </div>
        <div> <br>
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          style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original
          Message-----<br>
          From: Cecil Bearden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"><crbearden@copper.net></a><br>
          To: at <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
          Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 5:58 pm<br>
          Subject: Re: [AT] Supposedly why our old tractors are not
          metric and a fairly simple tutorial<br>
          <br>
          <div id="yiv2521658711">
            <div>
              <div>My heat pipes are not hooked up.  2 problems.  We
                tried one section and heated with 2 electric 40gal hot
                water tanks.  Electric bill was over $600 !!!!  Then the
                pipes were early pex that has set in an open warehouse (
                supplier"s ) and became brittle soon after the concrete
                was poured.  I think they will still be reliable if not
                moved a lot..  Too much investment in that heated floor
                to just abandon it.  I picked up a gas ired swimming
                pool heater to use for a boiler.<br clear="none">
                Cecil<br clear="none">
              </div>
              <div class="yiv2521658711yqt0496252155"
                id="yiv2521658711yqt13955">
                <div class="yiv2521658711moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2020
                  5:54 PM, <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                    class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    ymailto="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com" target="_blank"
                    href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com" moz-do-not-send="true">k7jdj@aol.com</a>
                  wrote:<br clear="none">
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                <blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div class="yiv2521658711yqt0496252155"
              id="yiv2521658711yqt86467">
              <div>
                <div style="color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica,
                  sans-serif;">
                  <div> <font size="2">I have a FLIR that I have used
                      to check in floor heat pipes.  Works Great IF the
                      heat is off and then turned on. So if the floor
                      and pipes are at ground temp and then the heat
                      applied you will get a fantastic view of the
                      pipes.  My FLIR cost about $1500 several years ago
                      and the prices have come down.  Have used it for
                      electrical inspections, water leaks, engine
                      exhaust temps, and heated floor observations .  I
                      believe you could rent a FLIR or find a home
                      inspector that would do it for you for $100 or so.</font></div>
                  <div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
                    </font></div>
                  <div><font size="2">Gary</font></div>
                  <div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
                    </font></div>
                  <div><font size="2">Renton, WA</font><br clear="none">
                  </div>
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                  <div style="font-family:arial,
                    helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original
                    Message-----<br clear="none">
                    From: Cecil Bearden <a rel="noopener noreferrer"
                      shape="rect"
                      class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                      target="_blank" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><crbearden@copper.net></a><br
                      clear="none">
                    To: at <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                      class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                      target="_blank"
                      href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br
                      clear="none">
                    Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 4:21 pm<br clear="none">
                    Subject: Re: [AT] Supposedly why our old tractors
                    are not metric and a fairly simple tutorial<br
                      clear="none">
                    <br clear="none">
                    <div id="yiv2521658711">
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                        <div>I figured out he meant rent one, but there
                          is not one in Oklahoma for rent.  The closest
                          thing is made by Zircon and has a depth in
                          concrete of 4-3/4 inches and is within 1/2
                          inch of location.....  Oklahoma is a third
                          world country when it comes to technology.<br
                            clear="none">
                          Cecil<br clear="none">
                          <br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div class="yiv2521658711yqt1204272558"
                          id="yiv2521658711yqtfd19911">
                          <div class="yiv2521658711moz-cite-prefix">On
                            2/25/2020 3:54 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br
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                        id="yiv2521658711yqtfd88955">
                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr">I think he means rent one.
                            <div><br clear="none">
                            </div>
                            <div>SO</div>
                            <div><br clear="none">
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <br clear="none">
                          <div class="yiv2521658711gmail_quote">
                            <div class="yiv2521658711gmail_attr"
                              dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:51 PM
                              <<a rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                shape="rect"
                                ymailto="mailto:bradloomis@charter.net"
                                target="_blank"
                                href="mailto:bradloomis@charter.net"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">bradloomis@charter.net</a>>
                              wrote:<br clear="none">
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="yiv2521658711gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                  <div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">Nice,
                                    but $700 US. Ouch. </div>
                                  <div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"> </div>
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style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
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                                        class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                                        AT <<a rel="noopener
                                          noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                          ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas
                                        Martin<br clear="none">
                                        <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February
                                        25, 2020 1:41 PM<br clear="none">
                                        <b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email
                                        Discussion Group <<a
                                          rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                          shape="rect"
                                          ymailto="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br
                                          clear="none">
                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT]
                                        Supposedly why our old tractors
                                        are not metric and a fairly
                                        simple tutorial</div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"> </div>
                                  <div>Surely your local hire company
                                    would have one of these or similar?</div>
                                  <div><a rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                      shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="https://www.bosch-pt.co.nz/nz/en/products/d-tect-150-sv-wallscanner-0601010008"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bosch-pt.co.nz/nz/en/products/d-tect-150-sv-wallscanner-0601010008</a></div>
                                  <div>Tom</div>
                                  <blockquote
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                                    <div class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-bottom:12pt;">On 26
                                      February 2020 at 10:31 Cecil
                                      Bearden <<a rel="noopener
                                        noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                        ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>>
                                      wrote: </div>
                                    <div>I have thought about that, and
                                      have an old and a newer 4 post
                                      lift just not installed.   When
                                      you work on both trucks and
                                      tractors, the lift can get in the
                                      way.  I would like to install the
                                      4 post 30K lift, but the floor has
                                      water pipes for heat under the
                                      slab.  We don't know where they
                                      are, and the posts have to have a
                                      pier under them.  The floor has 8"
                                      piers under the slab, cannot
                                      remember where they are.  I
                                      thought of fastening 4' x 4'
                                      plates 1in thick to the floor and
                                      then fasten the posts to them.  
                                      The floor is reinforced with
                                      reinforcing steel.  I need to find
                                      the reinforcing in the floor and
                                      try to miss the bars with the
                                      plate anchors.  <br clear="none">
                                      Cecil</div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
                                        2/25/2020 2:14 PM, Thomas Martin
                                        wrote: </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote
                                      style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
                                      <div>Surely a two poster would be
                                        a better bet?</div>
                                      <div>Tom</div>
                                      <blockquote
                                        style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
                                        <div
                                          class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12pt;">On
                                          26 February 2020 at 08:29
                                          Cecil Bearden <a
                                            rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                            shape="rect"
                                            ymailto="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"><crbearden@copper.net></a>
                                          wrote: </div>
                                        <div>Since I have a spinal
                                          problem and now one worn out
                                          stiff knee, getting up and
                                          down under anything is a
                                          problem.  Once I get down I
                                          have to either make do with
                                          what I have or haul all 300
                                          lbs of myself up and get what
                                          I need then when I get within
                                          a foot of the floor, I usually
                                          just try to fall on something
                                          soft!!!!!!  I have seriously
                                          been looking at this creeper
                                          made for aircraft. <span
                                            style="color:rgb(51,102,255);"><a
                                              rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                              shape="rect"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              href="https://ezcreeper.com/"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://ezcreeper.com/</a></span>
                                          I just wish it was available
                                          with an electric pump.  I have
                                          been looking for a drill
                                          powered hydraulic pump to
                                          adapt to this creeper.  <br
                                            clear="none">
                                          Cecil</div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
                                            2/25/2020 12:56 PM, Ron Cook
                                            wrote: </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote
                                          style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
                                          <div>Which is what I do.  And
                                            danged if I still don't have
                                            the right one!</div>
                                          <div>Ron Cook, Salix, IA</div>
                                          <div> </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div
                                              class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
                                              2/25/2020 12:47 PM,
                                              Stephen Offiler wrote: </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote
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                                            <div>
                                              <div
                                                class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">As
                                                a matter of fact I turn
                                                58 today, and I maintain
                                                my physical fitness to
                                                the best of my ability,
                                                so you're probably right
                                                in that regard.  But
                                                sorry, I reject the
                                                notion that bringing the
                                                wrong wrench is a
                                                blood-pressure-raising
                                                event, and I stand fast
                                                by my comment.  This
                                                simply isn't an argument
                                                against the metric
                                                system.  Seriously, just
                                                bring several
                                                wrenches...</div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
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                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">SO</div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
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                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">On
                                                  Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at
                                                  1:28 PM < <a
                                                    rel="noopener
                                                    noreferrer"
                                                    shape="rect"
                                                    ymailto="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a>> wrote: </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote
                                                style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">Steve,</div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">You
                                                      may not have
                                                      reached the age
                                                      where getting down
                                                      and under a
                                                      vehicle and then
                                                      getting back up is
                                                      a major effort. 
                                                      Having the wrong
                                                      wrench when I get
                                                      under there is not
                                                      a happy event. 
                                                      Should I give up
                                                      DIY wrenching? 
                                                      Not a chance as
                                                      long as my body is
                                                      still warm.  If I
                                                      didn’t keep trying
                                                      to do this stuff I
                                                      would have been 6’
                                                      under a long time
                                                      ago, </div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">Dean
                                                      VP</div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">Apache
                                                      Junction, AZ</div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"> </div>
                                                    <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal"><strong><span
style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> AT <<a
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                                                        ymailto="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
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                                                      <strong><span
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;">On
                                                          Behalf Of </span></strong>Stephen
                                                      Offiler<br
                                                        clear="none">
                                                      <strong><span
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong>
                                                      Tuesday, February
                                                      25, 2020 8:18 AM<br
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                                                      <strong><span
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;">To:</span></strong>
                                                      Antique Tractor
                                                      Email Discussion
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                                                      <strong><span
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong>
                                                      Re: [AT]
                                                      Supposedly why our
                                                      old tractors are
                                                      not metric and a
                                                      fairly simple
                                                      tutorial</div>
                                                    <div
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                                                        might want to
                                                        re-think the
                                                        whole DIY
                                                        wrenching thing
                                                        if that's all it
                                                        takes to get
                                                        your blood
                                                        pressure up.</div>
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                                                          Tue, Feb 25,
                                                          2020 at 10:13
                                                          AM ustonThomas
                                                          Mehrkam <<a
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target="_blank" href="mailto:tmehrkam@sbcglobal.net"
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                                                        <div
class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">It
                                                          was a evil
                                                          plot to sell
                                                          us another set
                                                          of tools. The
                                                          proof is I
                                                          still need two
                                                          sets to
                                                          service my
                                                          modern pickup.</div>
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style="margin-bottom:12pt;">It sells a lot of blood pressure meds.
                                                          Especially
                                                          when I crawl
                                                          under the darn
                                                          thing only to
                                                          find that one
                                                          d@m bolt is
                                                          metric causing
                                                          a cussing
                                                          wrench
                                                          throwing fit
                                                          as I crawl
                                                          back out to
                                                          get that evil
                                                          metric wrench.</div>
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style="font-family:Roboto;color:rgb(109,0,246);">On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at
                                                          3:40 AM,
                                                          Thomas Martin</span></div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div
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                                                          wrote:</span></div>
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                                                          > On 25
                                                          February 2020
                                                          at 17:12 John
                                                          Hall <<a
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target="_blank" href="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jtchall@nc.rr.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > Don't
                                                          know why they
                                                          couldn't
                                                          change pipe
                                                          threads, after
                                                          all the rest
                                                          of <br
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                                                          > the
                                                          planet uses 60
                                                          deg, not 55
                                                          for the
                                                          British
                                                          threads. Can't
                                                          really see <br
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                                                          > how it is
                                                          simpler than
                                                          what we use. I
                                                          mean how
                                                          exactly do the
                                                          Japanese <br
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                                                          > explain
                                                          such? Never
                                                          seen a German
                                                          print in
                                                          inches either
                                                          for that <br
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                                                          > matter.
                                                          If metric is
                                                          so much
                                                          better, then
                                                          go all in I
                                                          say.<br
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                                                          <br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          Well the rest
                                                          of the world
                                                          for a long
                                                          time was
                                                          British or
                                                          used British
                                                          technology<br
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                                                          before Sellars
                                                          came along
                                                          with his 60º
                                                          thread form in
                                                          the US. The US
                                                          wasn't a great
                                                          exporter<br
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                                                          at the time,
                                                          focusing more
                                                          on internal
                                                          expansion
                                                          &
                                                          self-sufficiency<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > You
                                                          missed the
                                                          part about
                                                          leaving out
                                                          the bastard
                                                          pipe threads,
                                                          didn't <br
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                                                          > you? We
                                                          did so much
                                                          hydraulic work
                                                          at one point
                                                          that all I
                                                          stocked was <br
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                                                          > NPTF, it
                                                          works for
                                                          NPT.  As you
                                                          know, NPT
                                                          covers the
                                                          vast majority,
                                                          <br
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                                                          > while
                                                          NPTF will
                                                          cover the
                                                          majority of
                                                          whats left.
                                                          The scraps can
                                                          be left <br
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                                                          > to those
                                                          who specialize
                                                          in oddities.<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > Never
                                                          needed an IH
                                                          bearing that I
                                                          couldn't
                                                          source from
                                                          wherever. The
                                                          <br
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                                                          > only
                                                          roller bearing
                                                          I ever needed
                                                          that was
                                                          manufacture
                                                          specific was
                                                          the <br
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                                                          > plunger
                                                          bearing on a
                                                          New Holland
                                                          baler. Motion
                                                          industries
                                                          finally was <br
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                                                          > able to
                                                          cross it, but
                                                          I couldn't
                                                          find it any
                                                          where else,
                                                          not even <br
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                                                          >
                                                          aftermarket ag
                                                          parts. And the
                                                          bearing
                                                          housing had to
                                                          come from New
                                                          <br
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                                                          > Holland,
                                                          nothing even
                                                          close. That
                                                          set up cost me
                                                          close to $300<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          I think there
                                                          is a slight
                                                          time frame
                                                          difference in
                                                          our work
                                                          experience,<br
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                                                          My experience
                                                          with Cat, IH,
                                                          & AC was
                                                          in the 60s
                                                          & 70 and
                                                          included <br
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                                                          machinery
                                                          built in the
                                                          50s. Cat &
                                                          IH did insist
                                                          on bearings
                                                          that were <br
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                                                          only Cat &
                                                          IH inclusive,
                                                          whereas AC
                                                          crawlers that
                                                          used more
                                                          Timken style<br
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                                                          bearings,
                                                          could be
                                                          sourced from
                                                          any bearing
                                                          supply co.
                                                          Five times
                                                          cheaper<br
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                                                          than Cat Or IH
                                                          equivalents.<br
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                                                          An interesting
                                                          aside was
                                                          that, rarely
                                                          was there a
                                                          need for
                                                          machining with<br
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                                                          AC, Cat or, IH
                                                          as regards
                                                          remedial
                                                          repair of
                                                          parts. Good
                                                          designs leave
                                                          little<br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          room for
                                                          improvement.<br
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                                                          <br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          > We have
                                                          an entire
                                                          section of
                                                          bastard taps
                                                          at work, it
                                                          has just as
                                                          many <br
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                                                          > oddball
                                                          metrics as it
                                                          does english.
                                                          It all depends
                                                          on the
                                                          industries you
                                                          <br
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                                                          > support
                                                          as to what is
                                                          in your tool
                                                          crib.<br
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                                                          ><br
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                                                          Around here,
                                                          its fruit and
                                                          meat
                                                          processing. <br
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                                                          At the local
                                                          Heinz cannery,
                                                          all the peach
                                                          & pear
                                                          lines were
                                                          American
                                                          sourced,<br
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                                                          and the makers
                                                          delighted in
                                                          shaft sizes
                                                          like 1-7/16",
                                                          1-9/16" &
                                                          1-15/16"<br
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                                                          with ODs to
                                                          match. Only
                                                          source was the
                                                          manufacturer.<br
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                                                          Another
                                                          delight was
                                                          the spaghetti
                                                          extruder, it
                                                          had a 50hp
                                                          motor driving
                                                          <br
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                                                          the extruder
                                                          through
                                                          reduction
                                                          gears, every
                                                          every shaft
                                                          was a nominal
                                                          size +<br
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                                                          a 1/16" Guess
                                                          where the
                                                          bearings had
                                                          to come from.
                                                          It had one bad
                                                          design <br
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                                                          fault in that
                                                          the heaviest
                                                          reduction had
                                                          no hunting
                                                          teeth, and it
                                                          had some<br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          very bad wear
                                                          patterns
                                                          revealed on
                                                          dismantling,
                                                          had a blank
                                                          forged in
                                                          Australia,<br
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                                                          it was about
                                                          600mm with a
                                                          152mm face.
                                                          :-)<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > I've
                                                          found that
                                                          engineers
                                                          don't always
                                                          make stuff
                                                          weird so you
                                                          have to <br
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                                                          > buy from
                                                          them, its
                                                          often so you
                                                          don't make a
                                                          substitution
                                                          that <br
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                                                          >
                                                          compromises
                                                          the design.
                                                          But there are
                                                          some that need
                                                          a plate glass
                                                          <br
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                                                          >
                                                          stomach.....<br
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                                                          "Plate glass
                                                          stomach"? <br
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                                                          Don't know
                                                          that saying,
                                                          although I
                                                          have modified
                                                          modified
                                                          maker's
                                                          efforts<br
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                                                          for the
                                                          better, when
                                                          their designs
                                                          were found
                                                          wanting.
                                                          Flattering
                                                          when they<br
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                                                          come up with
                                                          the same
                                                          improvement...<br
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                                                          <br
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                                                          Tom<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > John<br
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                                                          > <br
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                                                          > On
                                                          2/24/2020
                                                          10:41 PM,
                                                          Thomas Martin
                                                          wrote:<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          On 25 February
                                                          2020 at 15:17
                                                          John Hall <<a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          ymailto="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:jtchall@nc.rr.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jtchall@nc.rr.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br
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                                                          > >><br
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                                                          > >><br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          Fun fact. Did
                                                          you know
                                                          metric pipe
                                                          threads are
                                                          actually in
                                                          inches? They<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          are actually
                                                          55 deg
                                                          threadform
                                                          (British
                                                          Whitworth) but
                                                          the pitch is
                                                          in<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          metric. And
                                                          the real fun
                                                          part is that
                                                          the rest of
                                                          the planet
                                                          can't even<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          decide how to
                                                          spec them on
drawing/print/blueprint. Different countries<br clear="none">
                                                          > >>
                                                          have different
                                                          designations
                                                          for the same
                                                          thing. Off the
                                                          top of my
                                                          head,<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          I think there
                                                          are a combined
                                                          7 different
                                                          ways of
                                                          designating
                                                          metric pipe<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          threads (taper
                                                          and straight),
                                                          as opposed to
                                                          just 2. Now we
                                                          won't split<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          hairs with
                                                          short
                                                          projection,
                                                          dryseal or
                                                          other
                                                          specialty
                                                          threads--lets<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          stick to
                                                          99.999% of
                                                          pipe threads.<br
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                                                          > >><br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          FWIW, I have
                                                          30 years in a
                                                          machine shop
                                                          and have
                                                          continually
                                                          used both<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          english and
                                                          metric without
                                                          an issue. Its
                                                          the rest of
                                                          the planet
                                                          that<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          makes a big
                                                          ordeal out of
                                                          it, we just
                                                          grab a print
                                                          and go with
                                                          it.<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          English,
                                                          German,
                                                          Japanese--its
                                                          all the
                                                          same--until we
                                                          have to use<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          Translate
                                                          Google to
                                                          figure out the
                                                          notes.<br
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                                                          > >><br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          One more fun
                                                          fact. Next
                                                          time you need
                                                          some roller
                                                          bearings for
                                                          your old<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          tractor and
                                                          start
                                                          measuring them
                                                          only to find
                                                          they aren't
                                                          exactly<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          english,
                                                          convert them
                                                          to metric--you
                                                          might ought to
                                                          sit down
                                                          first.<br
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                                                          > >><br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          I won't even
                                                          get into
                                                          European
                                                          conduit
                                                          threads--I've
                                                          only had to do
                                                          them<br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          twice.<br
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                                                          > >><br
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                                                          > >>
                                                          John Hall<br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          > >><br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          > >
                                                          Well, John<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          Europe did
                                                          adopt BSP
                                                          (British
                                                          Standard Pipe)
                                                          threads<br
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                                                          > > back
                                                          in the 19th
                                                          century,
                                                          difficult to
                                                          change horses
                                                          now.<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          Quite a simple
                                                          setup compared
                                                          to the
                                                          American
                                                          system!<br
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                                                          > > Did
                                                          you know that
                                                          the US has 11
                                                          diffent
                                                          derivatives of<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          National Pipe
                                                          threads?<br
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                                                          > > As
                                                          for 11-1/2 tpi
                                                          NPT, I bet
                                                          many a lathe
                                                          manufacturer<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          swore when
                                                          Norton
                                                          invented the
                                                          quick change
                                                          gearbox for<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          lathes and
                                                          provision had
                                                          to be made for
                                                          that.<br
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                                                          > > In
                                                          fact would say
                                                          I have cut
                                                          more peculiar
                                                          threads of US<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          origin that
                                                          elsewhere.<br
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                                                          > > That
                                                          goes for
                                                          bearings also.
                                                          Both
                                                          Caterpillar
                                                          and IH used to<br
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                                                          > > get
                                                          bearings,
                                                          especially
                                                          taper-roller,
                                                          ground to 
                                                          their<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          specific
                                                          sizes, so that
                                                          only they
                                                          could supply,
                                                          at a cost<br
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                                                          > > 5 to
                                                          10 times the
                                                          cost of a
                                                          standard size!
                                                          Extortionate!<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          Competition
                                                          finally forced
                                                          them into
                                                          standardization
                                                          in the finish.<br
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                                                          > > FMC
                                                          was another
                                                          who engaged in
                                                          the practice
                                                          in another
                                                          field.<br
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                                                          > ><br
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                                                          > > Tom<br
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                                                          > >
                                                          _______________________________________________<br
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                                                          > > AT
                                                          mailing list<br
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                                                          > > <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          > > <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></div>
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                                                          > <br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          >
                                                          _______________________________________________<br
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                                                          > AT
                                                          mailing list<br
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                                                          > <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          > <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br
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_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
                                                          AT mailing
                                                          list<br
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                                                          <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></div>
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class="yiv2521658711gmail-m_-7436778977563860140ox-f833f35c16-ox-1c987087de-msonormal">_______________________________________________<br
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                                                          AT mailing
                                                          list<br
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                                                          <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
                                                          clear="none">
                                                          <a
                                                          rel="noopener
                                                          noreferrer"
                                                          shape="rect"
                                                          target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a></div>
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                                                </div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv2521658711MsoNormal">_______________________________________________
                                                  <br clear="none">
                                                  AT mailing list <br
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                                                  <a rel="noopener
                                                    noreferrer"
                                                    shape="rect"
                                                    ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a> <br
                                                    clear="none">
                                                  <a rel="noopener
                                                    noreferrer"
                                                    shape="rect"
                                                    target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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                                            <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
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                                          <pre>AT mailing list</pre>
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                                            ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
                                          <br clear="none">
                                          <a rel="noopener noreferrer"
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href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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                                      <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                      <pre>AT mailing list</pre>
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                                      <br clear="none">
                                      AT mailing list <br clear="none">
                                      <a rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        shape="rect"
                                        ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
                                      <br clear="none">
                                      <a rel="noopener noreferrer"
                                        shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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                                     </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
                              AT mailing list<br clear="none">
                              <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com" target="_blank"
                                href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
                                clear="none">
                              <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                target="_blank"
href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a><br
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<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv2521658711moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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                      AT mailing list<br clear="none">
                      <a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                        ymailto="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                        target="_blank"
                        href="mailto:AT@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
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                        target="_blank"
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              rel="noopener noreferrer"
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              moz-do-not-send="true">AT@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br
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href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com"
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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