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<font size="+1">If you want to retain the Windoz 'rescue' partition,
most Linux install programs include a '<i>something else</i>'
option (not using the <i>entire</i> disk) whereby you can
create/designate a separate partition on which to install Linux
(it uses a program called <i>Gparted</i> to do this).<br>
Most computers, even after setting the BIOS to enable booting from
a disk or thumb, need to be jolted by pushing <i>esc</i> or <i>del</i>
or <i>f12</i> etc when the initial screen shows up, then it will
show your boot choices.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/17/20 10:01 AM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bloomis@charter.net">bloomis@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good point Spencer. I had a difficult time
getting my Asus laptop to boot off the thumb even after
setting USB as the primary boot. Google led me to the need to
also enter ESC to bring up a boot menu choice. Jeez. I’m going
to run Linux on that machine but for some odd reason I want to
keep the factory rescue partition. Heck I think it’s Vista. I
don’t think I can ever restore it to even W7 without the
original Vista so… I’ll probably image that partition. <br>
I’ve looked thru the manual and the forums on how to avoid
erasing the rescue partition, but as Charlie said the verbiage
of Linux is, different. <br>
Also someone mentioned defragging. SSDs don’t need it. I’m
hoping to put Linux on my desktop, same situation, 12 yo Dell
Vista, now W7, on an SSD, but this one I don’t really care
about the partition. It’s I’m just not ready to pull the
trigger fully just yet. A lot of years invested in Outlook as
far as email, calendar, tasks, etc. hence the learning on the
laptop. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Spencer Yost<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 17, 2020 6:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] OT- Computer help please<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just some thumb drive ramblings:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Making thumb drives bootable is generally
trivial. <span style="color:black">Most distributions of
Linux have great documentation on this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">As others have
mentioned, you need to have/borrow a second machine to
create it if you are doing this because your machine is in
the fritz.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Setting your bios to boot off the drive
and having it actually work can be challenging for some
older makes/bios.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To state the obvious: Bootable thumb
drives to rescue files don’t work for ransomware and drive
failures. So no substitute for backups.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">micro SD cards an be handy for this too.
Making your machine boot off them is about the same in
terms of difficulty and success rate. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some retail bootable solutions contain
more than an operating system: Many have scan/repair tools
and may be worth the $35. Replicating those capabilities in
your bootable USB drive is not trivial.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To ease some concerns: Linux is open
source and most (all probably??) distributions of Linux have
a free open source version in addition to the paid “better”
distribution that would include support. So all of this
100% legal. Obviously you can steal and install software
for any OS so whether your additional installs are legal is
up to you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Feb
17, 2020, at 7:27 AM, cgs <<a
href="mailto:oxygenfarm@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">oxygenfarm@gmail.com</a>>
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style="font-size:13.5pt">Most versions of Linux are
free and legal to download; some charge for a prepared
thumb drive and/or a phone help service.<br>
I have several computers that age which will run the
lighter Linux versions. A new solid state drive (120
GB) can be found online or at MicroCenter for $25 (be
sure your old iron has SATA connectors!)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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