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    <p>Hi, Stephen,</p>
    <p>I don't remember what brand of PC you have, but several
      manufacturers provide a "hidden partition" on the hard drive that
      can be used to restore the PC back to factory settings. On both of
      my Acer laptops the <Alt-F10> keys are pressed together
      during boot. This enables the restore function.  That would,
      however, wipe out your files. But if there is no other alternative
      it would be worth a try. The laptop I am using to type this
      suffered a hard drive crash a couple of years ago. The hard drive
      was no longer recognized. Using the Acer part number, I was able
      to find the exact same hard drive on eBay. I had to completely
      rebuild my setup, but still much less expensive than a new laptop.</p>
    <p>If that $35 thumb drive is bootable, that would still be a good
      option for me.</p>
    <p>My 2¢</p>
    <p>Phil in TX<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/16/2020 5:44 AM, Stephen Offiler
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi farmer:  When you say no reason to buy anything,
        I assume you refer to that $35 thumb drive device I mentioned. 
        As I understand it, the thumb drive is bootable, circumventing
        the hard drive and whatever OS is on the machine.  The sales
        pitch is that it will take a machine that's bricked and bring it
        back to life.  Do you have a way to accomplish that for free?
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 10:39
          PM Indiana Robinson <<a
            href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>>
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            <div>No reason to buy anything, Most distributions of Linux
              will read Windows files. You can copy, paste move etc. and
              you can download anything for free. I don't putter with
              old stuff as much as I used to but I've used Knoppix for
              such things for many years. I don't know if Windows 10 can
              read Linux files yet or not but I once read that it was
              soon to be an option. If you install Linux as a dual boot
              with Windows you can just access your Windows files
              without having to reboot back into Windows to find them or
              work with them.</div>
            <div>Half of the Linux learning curve is terminology... If
              you have become comfortable using Android you are half way
              there. Android is just a mobile (and tablet) version of
              Linux. Android is built on and running the Linux Kernel
              but your desktop box won't run Android.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at
              9:33 AM cgs <<a href="mailto:oxygenfarm@gmail.com"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">oxygenfarm@gmail.com</a>>
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              <div> <font size="+1">Look at <u><a
href="http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-data-recovery-tools-for-linux-to-recover-data-or-deleted-partitions"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-data-recovery-tools-for-linux-to-recover-data-or-deleted-partitions</a></u></font><br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Good to hear it's all set.  I've been
                    seeing ad's for a device called "XtraPC" which, it
                    turns out, is some flavor of Linux burned onto a
                    thumb drive for something like $35.  You can bring
                    back most troublesome old machines from the grave
                    (assuming the problem is hard drive/boot software,
                    not some hardware failure of course).  What I do not
                    know is whether you can access your Windows files
                    under Linux.  Curious about that.
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                Francis Robinson<br>
                aka "farmer"<br>
                Central Indiana USA<br>
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