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<DIV>Most GM vehicles from a wide year range with the rear hatch/trunk opening
problem can probably have the same fix applied that I had done to my Cruz,
probably even the same part number.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Becker</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=moscowengnr@outlook.com>Dennis Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 27, 2020 5:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=at@lists.antique-tractor.com>Antique Tractor Email
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] driver convenience systems</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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RAM “panic button” is also a pain. It randomly triggers alarm from being in my
pocket along with other keys.
<DIV>We used to have a GMC Terrain with FOB. It’s idiosyncrasy was to open the
rear hatch, especially when traveling and parking at a hotel. Some mornings at
home we would go to the garage, and find the rear hatch open and leaning against
garage door. Very frustrating.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dennis<BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Spencer Yost
<spencer@rdfarms.com> wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr> The panic button is a problem on the Ram occasionally but
otherwise all the fobs I’ve owned have behaved as one would expect.
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<DIV>Speaking of tractors....</DIV>
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<DIV>I once saw someone operate a winch that had a fob rather than a wired
remote. For safety it sounds smart as you can get farther away from the
cable and winching a non-running tractor alone onto a trailer without a helper
would be easier.</DIV>
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<DIV>Retrofit kits to convert to a fob are available for many winches but
the<SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> pocket dilemma
is enough to make me wary and hesitant.</SPAN></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:45 AM, bradloomis@charter.net
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<P class=MsoPlainText>I've come out to my Jetta to find the trunk at the
minimum unlatched. Not a good thing when tools are in there. My biggest
peeve is honking the horn or beeping when one locks and unlocks the car.
Flashing lights are plenty. Blind people aren't usually going to be driving
and require a blasted horn to let the know. First thing I had the dealer
disable. No longer user do-able. Pure noise pollution. If I don't know if
I've locked my car then I shouldn't drive. Oh and nothing as fun as having
something in your pocket set off the panic alarm. <SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😐</SPAN> Not able to
disable that little 'feature'. Both my Jetta and my Ranger have this bonus.
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<P class=MsoPlainText>Bradford<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: AT
<at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Cecil
Bearden<BR>Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:27 AM<BR>To:
at@lists.antique-tractor.com<BR>Subject: Re: [AT] driver convenience
systems</P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Jim:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>I may try the o-ring trick, Than ks<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Cecil<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>On 1/26/2020 9:44 PM, Jim Becker wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> I had the same problem with my 2012 Cruz.
The trunk opened with a <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> single hit. You could be standing around at
a distance with the fob <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> in your pocket and the trunk pops open. I
went back to the dealer and <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> had them install a relay that required two hits
within a very short <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> time. That took care of it as the
likelihood of hitting the button <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> twice quickly is very remote. The drawback
is that the release button <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> on the truck lid also has to be hit twice as it
goes through the same <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> relay. The dealer had no idea what I was
talking about on the double <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> hit relay. I had to bring them the relay
part number and told them to <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> search the service bulletins for that
number.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> If the buttons were recessed deeply into the fob,
it would be a less <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> likely event. I have heard of people
opening up their fobs and adding <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> a small o-ring under the sensitive buttons so
they would push a lot <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> harder.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> Jim Becker<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> -----Original Message----- From: Cecil
Bearden<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 8:54
PM<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> To: <A><SPAN
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<P class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: Re: [AT] driver convenience
systems<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> The only real convenience our 2017 Grand Caravan
has is the electric <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> remote controlled side doors and the rear
liftgate. you can open them <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> with the key fob that also can remotely start it.
The real problem is <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> that it is too sensitive. It takes 2 pushes
of the button to operate <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> the features, but they will work inside a
building 500 ft away. Right <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> after we got it, I was inside a building and my
wife was sitting in <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> the car at the end of the parking
lot.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> Suddenly the rear gate
opened........ I have not carried the fob <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> since. I got a couple of RFID pouches to
carry them in but they are <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> too bulky to fit in pockets. You can
never be sure if the doors will <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> stay locked. There should be some way to
turn off the key fob......<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> Cecil<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>> On 1/26/2020 7:42 PM, Henry Miller
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>>> I rented a vehicle with the auto stop and I
thought it worked great. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>>> It was a stick though, which makes a big
difference, the engine <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>>> started when pushing in the clutch pedal
which is a much better <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>>> indication of when it is time to start the
engine.<o:p></o:p></P>
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