<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Jim,
<div>What year is your wife's Equinox? We just got a 2020 and I think with it you can put the high beams on manually by just pushing forward on the lever. We haven't driven it much yet so I'm still figuring things out. We got it at thanksgiving time and have only put 300 miles on it.</div>
<div>I was a bit dubious about the auto dim function, but I must say it seems to work quite well. <br>
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From: Jim Becker <mr.jebecker@gmail.com><br>
To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com><br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2020 7:48 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [AT] driver convenience systems<br>
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<div>My wife’s car (Chevy Equinox) has autodimming lights. It has a
dedicated button on the turn signal lever for turning the feature on or
off. It works pretty well in most circumstances. It has what I
consider a bit of a problem on a road with a lot of up and down. You enter
a dip and even with another car coming towards you in the next dip it turns the
brights on. It leaves them on until both vehicles get far enough up the
next hump to establish line of sight to each other’s headlights. Doing it
manually, you can see the scatter from the other lights and dim (or leave dim)
before you have direct line of sight. On that type road, it is better to
shut the autodim off and stick with low beams if there is oncoming
traffic. I had another situation a couple nights ago. I was entering
a large sweeping curve, one of those flatland curves with about an 800 ft.
radius. Another car was entering from the other end and he had a headlight
out. I guess it dimmed at a reasonable distance but I would have dimmed
way before the autodimmer did it. That was one of those oddball situations
people dream up to prove the system doesn’t work. Having a convenient way
to shut the feature off is probably the answer.</div>
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<div>By the way, the manual lists a half dozen situations where the system may
not dim the lights, including both I just described. Following that list
it says: “The IntelliBeam system may need to be disabled if any of the
above conditions exist.”</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:33 PM</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I have no answer; doesn't seem like there'd be any federal
requirement, so I'd guess it's the whim of the Ram product and marketing people.
I think it would bug me enough to shut it off, and I guess I find it interesting
that you like it enough on the open road to deal with it below 15mph.
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<div class="yiv4521686658gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:43 PM Spencer Yost
<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">spencer@rdfarms.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div>You can toggle a setting that allows the lighting stalk to be “normal”
brights on/off or be auto dim on/off. But it’s a touch screen setting
and 3 menus down....
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<div>I live on a private road that is dark and unlit. It also has
speedbumps (don’t get me started on that - crazy neighbors insisted when we
finally paved it). Slowing down for the speedbumps triggers this
behavior. I also have a long dark drive to the shed with the baler and
the Ford and continues down to one barn. My speed on that driveway is
too slow for them to even come on. </div>
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<div>Also, sometimes you just want to be stopped but still have the bright
lights on. </div>
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<div>Funny thing is, if It didn’t do such a great job on the road in normal
circumstances, I’d turn autodim off and leave it off. But I really like it
under those normal circumstances. So I find myself doing without bright
lights in slow/stopped circumstances or fumbling with a touchscreen.</div>
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<div>Seems ridiculous. Why would I not want bright lights below 15mph?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Spencer: presumably one can shut the auto-dimming
function off? I can totally see the 15mph irritation. My
tractor-hauling rig is a '16 F-250 but it's pretty basic "XL" trim
level. Not much auto-anything beyond the transmission. Which is
fine with me!
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<div>Steve O.</div>
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<div>My 2016 Ram antique tractor hauling truck has auto dimming and
clearly uses a camera and AI to recognize headlights AND taillights.
Does really well. Only issues are some security/street
lights will fool it and they turn off. Even then the truck has to be
approaching at just the right vector. Minor thing in my mind.
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<div>Other one is speed. Below 15mph the brights go off.
This is a bigger deal and pisses me off driving on the beach or a gravel
rd when I am traveling between 12-18 mph and they turn on and off and on
and off and ......</div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">I rented a car
last month while visiting relatives in another state. Toyota
Camry, I think, whatever the rental place considered a “full size”
car. With the headlight switch in Auto mode, it would
automatically switch the high beams on and off depending on whether
oncoming car headlights were visible. Freaked me out when it
first happened. I watched attentively for a while and it
worked fine, never left the high beams on when I would have switched
them off. But I stopped using Auto mode after that and just
used the normal On setting and controlled the high beams manually… too
much habit, muscle memory, and lingering distrust of the new
system.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">As I think about
it, maybe the auto bright/dim control isn’t a bad feature, since there
are sure a bunch of morons out there who don’t think it’s important to
switch to low beams when they’re *<b>behind</b>* another car.
Hopefully the technology provides that capability
too…<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Dean
Vinson<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Saint Paris,
OH<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Aaron Dickinson<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 20, 2020 5:05
PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [AT] driver convenience systems<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal">Rain, fog, Snow all can allow enough ambient light to
fool the auto headlamps to think they are not necessary. My complaint
when they first came out with daytime running lights with auto
headlamps, was fear that it would make drivers lazy/ignorant about when
and how to use their headlights. I have seen too many times when lights
are not on or fully on when they should be. Little concerned about the
driver alert systems. Surprised at the number of drivers that don’t know
how to position their mirrors, or have awareness of their surroundings.
Like many on the list, I drive a pickup truck often towing a trailer, be
it a flatbed, travel, or enclosed. I am able to <u>adjust</u> my mirrors
to nearly eliminate blind spots, those that remain are monitored for
vehicles entering and leaving. <u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal">Aaron Dickinson<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal">Mason, Michigan<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">Jim
Becker</a><br clear="none"><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:49 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:
</b><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">'Antique Tractor Email Discussion
Group'</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black;">Yeah,
what Brian said about DRLs, except maybe not at 80%. Automatic
lights respond to light levels and should turn on both front and
rear. Most if not all also have an instrument panel indicator so
the driver can tell if the automatic lights are on. They do not
know when it is raining as light levels in rain are usually above the
level that turns on the lights. It is still up to the driver to
turn on lights in the rain.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">
Brian VanDragt <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND:whitesmoke;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">Sent:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">
Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:35 PM<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">I don’t know how
all the auto mode lights work, but my ‘99 Chevy Tahoe has daytime
running lights and no auto mode. Daytime running lights are the
front headlights only and are always on at 80% brightness whenever the
engine is running and the parking brake is not set. I don’t
consider these auto mode lights. If I want my rear lights on and
the headlights up to full brightness when it is getting dark or when it
is raining, I have to turn my lights on manually. Daytime running
lights are to make oncoming traffic more visible in shaded
areas.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Brian<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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AT [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gilbert Schwartz<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 19,
2020 9:23 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group;
Howard Pletcher<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to
install headlights.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(51,51,51);">Howard,
I am glad to hear that on your escape. The last four vehicles I have had
would not turn on the rear lights when the auto mode turned on the front
lights. One of those vehicles was a pickup truck. Now I am wondering
what condition turns the lights on in auto mode. Several years ago my
wife was driving in a rainstorm while I was behind her. When we stopped
I raised the roof because she had no lights on. She advised me real
quick "I had them on auto mode". <br clear="none">The next time you are out in the
daylight take a look at the oncoming traffic and see how many have
lights on the front but none on the rear, unless of course they are
applying their brakes. <br clear="none">I am guessing now that the insurance
explanation says it all. I thought for sure that EPA had something to do
with it. <br clear="none">I guess I am just getting too old, I am one of those people
that just don't matter anymore. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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January 19, 2020 at 8:02 PM Howard Pletcher <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">hrpletch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma, sans-serif;COLOR:black;">????
I don't think a dangerous situation like that can be
industrywide. My Ford Escape turns on both front and rear in the
auto mode. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv4521686658MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">While
we are talking about vehicle lights, please, someone explain to me
why or how anyone would want to have lights on the front of their
vehicle with no lights on the rear. It appears that this condition
is industrywide and seems to be always in the "AUTO" mode on the
headlight switch.
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