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<DIV>My wife’s car, the same one with the autodimming lights, started
occasionally slamming on the brakes. We found a big stone chip in the lens
of the front camera. It seems that combining the stone chip with the right
view caused it to see something that wasn’t really there. By the way,
glass insurance doesn’t cover camera lenses.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Becker</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=spencer@rdfarms.com>Spencer
Yost</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=at@lists.antique-tractor.com>Antique Tractor Email
Discussion Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] driver convenience systems</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>One other thing I will mention that is sort of funny…</DIV>
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<DIV>I told you how much I like this feature usually. However at first I
hated it. It hardly worked and the few times it did it would work
erratically. It was the biggest POS.</DIV>
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<DIV>Fast forward a year and I go for a recall at the dealership. The dealer
says “Hey your truck is throwing a bunch of autodimming codes. You have a
sticker blocking the camera”. Sure enough, right there at the base of the
rear view mirror mount (camera was behind the mirror) was my employers RFID
sticker for opening gate arms. I put that sticker on the second day
after I bought the truck. Removed the sticker(happened to switch jobs just
a week prior) and it’s been working great.</DIV>
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<DIV>Spencer</DIV>
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<DIV>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Jan 22, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Spencer Yost
<spencer@rdfarms.com> wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>My 2016 Ram antique tractor hauling truck has auto dimming and
clearly uses a camera and AI to recognize headlights AND taillights.
Does really well. Only issues are some security/street
lights will fool it and they turn off. Even then the truck has to be
approaching at just the right vector. Minor thing in my mind.
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<DIV>Other one is speed. Below 15mph the brights go off.
This is a bigger deal and pisses me off driving on the beach or a gravel rd
when I am traveling between 12-18 mph and they turn on and off and on and off
and ......</DIV>
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<DIV>Spencer <BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Dean Vinson
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I rented a car last month
while visiting relatives in another state. Toyota Camry, I think,
whatever the rental place considered a “full size” car. With the
headlight switch in Auto mode, it would automatically switch the high beams
on and off depending on whether oncoming car headlights were
visible. Freaked me out when it first happened. I
watched attentively for a while and it worked fine, never left the high
beams on when I would have switched them off. But I stopped
using Auto mode after that and just used the normal On setting and
controlled the high beams manually… too much habit, muscle memory, and
lingering distrust of the new system.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">As I think about it, maybe
the auto bright/dim control isn’t a bad feature, since there are sure a
bunch of morons out there who don’t think it’s important to switch to low
beams when they’re *<B>behind</B>* another car. Hopefully the
technology provides that capability too…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Dean
Vinson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Saint Paris,
OH<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> AT
[mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Aaron
Dickinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 20, 2020 5:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<at@lists.antique-tractor.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] driver
convenience systems<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Rain, fog, Snow all can allow enough ambient light to
fool the auto headlamps to think they are not necessary. My complaint when
they first came out with daytime running lights with auto headlamps, was
fear that it would make drivers lazy/ignorant about when and how to use
their headlights. I have seen too many times when lights are not on or fully
on when they should be. Little concerned about the driver alert systems.
Surprised at the number of drivers that don’t know how to position their
mirrors, or have awareness of their surroundings. Like many on the list, I
drive a pickup truck often towing a trailer, be it a flatbed, travel, or
enclosed. I am able to <U>adjust</U> my mirrors to nearly eliminate blind
spots, those that remain are monitored for vehicles entering and leaving.
<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Aaron Dickinson<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Mason, Michigan<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From: </B><A>Jim Becker</A><BR><B>Sent: </B>Sunday,
January 19, 2020 9:49 PM<BR><B>To: </B><A>'Antique Tractor Email Discussion
Group'</A><BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Yeah, what
Brian said about DRLs, except maybe not at 80%. Automatic lights
respond to light levels and should turn on both front and rear. Most
if not all also have an instrument panel indicator so the driver can tell if
the automatic lights are on. They do not know when it is raining as
light levels in rain are usually above the level that turns on the
lights. It is still up to the driver to turn on lights in the
rain.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Jim
Becker<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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Brian VanDragt <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:35 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
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[AT] tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I don’t know how all the
auto mode lights work, but my ‘99 Chevy Tahoe has daytime running lights and
no auto mode. Daytime running lights are the front headlights only and
are always on at 80% brightness whenever the engine is running and the
parking brake is not set. I don’t consider these auto mode
lights. If I want my rear lights on and the headlights up to full
brightness when it is getting dark or when it is raining, I have to turn my
lights on manually. Daytime running lights are to make oncoming
traffic more visible in shaded areas.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Brian<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[<A>mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Gilbert Schwartz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group; Howard
Pletcher<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif; COLOR: #333333'>Howard,
I am glad to hear that on your escape. The last four vehicles I have had
would not turn on the rear lights when the auto mode turned on the front
lights. One of those vehicles was a pickup truck. Now I am wondering what
condition turns the lights on in auto mode. Several years ago my wife was
driving in a rainstorm while I was behind her. When we stopped I raised the
roof because she had no lights on. She advised me real quick "I had them on
auto mode". <BR>The next time you are out in the daylight take a look at the
oncoming traffic and see how many have lights on the front but none on the
rear, unless of course they are applying their brakes. <BR>I am guessing now
that the insurance explanation says it all. I thought for sure that EPA had
something to do with it. <BR>I guess I am just getting too old, I am one of
those people that just don't matter anymore. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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January 19, 2020 at 8:02 PM Howard Pletcher
<<A>hrpletch@gmail.com</A>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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I don't think a dangerous situation like that can be industrywide.
My Ford Escape turns on both front and rear in the auto mode.
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Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Gilbert Schwartz <
<A>vschwartz1@comcast.net</A>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; COLOR: black'>While
we are talking about vehicle lights, please, someone explain to me why
or how anyone would want to have lights on the front of their vehicle
with no lights on the rear. It appears that this condition is
industrywide and seems to be always in the "AUTO" mode on the headlight
switch. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV>
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