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My wife drives a lot of highway miles, and we keep our cars till
they die, the windshield and headlight lenses basically get
sandblasted. If someone was smart they would invent,(or use) peel
off wrappers like they use on NASCAR windshields. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">To the best of my knowledge, Catia and Unigraphics
NX both outpace Pro/E in the automotive industry.
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Most larger automotive companies and engine companies use
ProE cad programs.
<div>Cad programs do not cause clearance or maintenance
issues. These programs just allow the operator to make
poor designs quicker than old days with tee squares.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Interesting comments on screen sizes
James. I've got a dual monitor setup, 27" in front
of me and 21" just to the right. When doing CAD
work, it's mostly done on the main screen, with the
smaller one containing notes, word processor,
internet browser, calculator, useful tools along
those lines. But to comment on scale: A practical
problem I run into is with small parts. It is a
basic functionality of CAD to zoom, pan, and rotate
the part or assembly on screen. You can take a tiny
part and fill the screen with it and lose
appreciation for scale very quickly.
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When vehicles were designed on the board, they
drew in 1/2 scale. You could look at a drawing and
relate it to reality. If you taped a drawing to a
wall, you could get a sense of the vehicle size.
If a designer had a full size or 1/2 size CAD
screen, those inaccessible places would be much
more noticeable. People doing 3D solid modelling
sometimes have multiple screens, one for each
view. It would be difficult to design anything on
a smart phone screen. It is not much easier on a
small monitor. Monitors do continually get larger,
just like TV screens.<br>
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Some years ago I read some issues of a then
DaimlerChrysler employee newsletter. One article
covered a group that real world verified that all
maintenance operations could be performed on a new
model. If the maintenance could not be performed,
the group would have to design a specialized tool
or get a tool manufacturer to design the tool and
offer it for sale.<br>
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They did all this after the vehicle had been
designed and production was imminent. I am
guessing that moving heaven and earth would be
easier than getting the product design changed.<br>
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Toyota which emphasizes production efficiency not
product design may not do it any differently.<br>
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Cecil Bearden AT List member, Oklahoma farmer, and
Professional Engineer (<a
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<snap> This is the problem of designing with
AutoCAD and those other computer drafting
programs. The designer has no idea of the
clearance in the finished product. <snip><br>
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