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<DIV><FONT size=4 face="Lucida Sans"> Early Lincolns had
copper windings and later ones have aluminum windings. East to tell by lifting
them both. Copper windings are much heavier than aluminum windings. Copper is
much better.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Gene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=soffiler@gmail.com
href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com">Stephen Offiler</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 23, 2019 7:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=at@lists.antique-tractor.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT] Antique tractors that are too
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hold on, you say old LIncoln tombstones go for a grand? How
old do they have to be? I've got a 225 AC/DC that I picked up at an
auction for $50, had to be 20 years ago, and it was certainly not new
then. As a wild guess I'd say it must be late '70's to early 80's.
Externally it doesn't seem much different from modern ones and I greatly doubt
mine is old enough to be worth anything. Curious though.
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<DIV>SO</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 6:22 PM Cecil Bearden
<<A href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net">crbearden@copper.net</A>>
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<P>I always wanted an old Lincoln "tombstone"225 AC/DC welder. They sell
at auction for over $1000. An old local farmer had an estate
auction and I was at the back of the crowd when his Lincoln Tombstone welder
came up for auction. I got it for $400, but after I got it home is was a
tombstone, but it was AC only..... I finally got the chance to buy one
on Craigs list for $600. Then a year later I bought 4 that had been
rebuilt for a VO-Tech out west for $450 for the lot!!! I first
welded with one of them during college at OSU. I fell in love with the
welder. Those welders have an open arc voltage of about 90V.
They will make you jump when welding on wet stuff... However, they run
7018 LH as pretty as you could ever want. I have mounted one on a 15KW
generator for a portable welder. It works great and I have plenty of
power to run grinders etc. <BR>Cecil<BR></P>
<DIV>On 12/22/2019 2:59 PM, <A href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
target=_blank>deanvp@att.net</A> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">I purchased my used
Lincoln 225 AMP arc welder for $100 at a swap meet. It is quite old. I
haven’t taken the time to try to figure out how old but I wanted to buy an
older one after looking at new ones. I looked at the guts of a new one vs
how the old ones were built and decided an old one would last longer and
probably weld better. I’ve had it 10 years and it is ready to go every
time I need it. IMHO, sometimes new isn’t always better.
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">Dean
VP<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">Snohomish, WA
98290<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"> AT <A
href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target=_blank>mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</A> <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Mike M<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 21, 2019 9:38
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target=_blank>at@lists.antique-tractor.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AT]
Antique tractors that are too expensive<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">I've also seen people bid way
too high, they get caught up in the excitement. I was standing next to a guy
who was bidding on an old tombstone welder. I wanted it too. I think he
ended up paying $300 for it. You could buy a new one for less than that.
It's pays to know what things cost before bidding on them. I was bidding,
but dropped out at $150, because that is all I was willing to
pay.<BR><BR>Mike M<BR><BR><U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 12/22/2019 12:13 AM, Spencer Yost
wrote:<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>We have all seen it: the tractor the seller is
asking way too much for. Or conversely; why buyers don’t show up for
our obviously wonderful tractor that we post in
EBay/Craigslist/whatever.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>So listening to podcasts tonight, I ran across a
podcast that was discussing many things, including a discussion with a
psychologist from Berkeley who was explaining the “endowment effect”. I
was unaware of this. Though I had intuited it many times I did not know it
was a “thing”.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Long story short it explains why people often seem to
ask way more for a tractor that I’m willing to
pay.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><A
href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect"
target=_blank>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect</A><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+"
target=_blank>https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+</A><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Interestingly, this is true regardless of how long they
owned it or whether it had any other type (e.g. nostalgia) of value.
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<P class=MsoNormal>Unfortunately, the podcast did not describe how I, the
buyer, could negotiate my way around this.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>PS: I will be that seller if I ever sell
the Pacer. (-;<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Spencer<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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