<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I did a bit of TIG research after I took the classes, plus, out of pure coincidence, just a couple months later we took on a new job at work that requires a TIG weld - this is a first for us. We don't have any inhouse welding expertise (beyond what I know, and that is NOT expert-level). We ended up farming that job out, but just being conversant with TIG was extremely helpful in finding the right welder for that job.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In my travels I found some excellent resources on YouTube. Some of those guys are virtuoso-level with a TIG torch, and they have figured out how to film the process. I was calling it "welding porn" - watching a pro at work is mesmerizing. Among several, "weldingtipsandtricks" on YouTube a.k.a. <a href="http://weldmonger.com">weldmonger.com</a> is a standout. One machine he recommends is the Eastwood TIG200, which is 200 amp at 60% duty cycle with high-frequency start (a must-have) and AC for aluminum:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc.html">https://www.eastwood.com/tig200acdc.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hate to say it but probably Chinese under the skin. The same guys are probably on the market under lots of different sheetmetal - Everlast is another budget-friendly brand that gets good reviews from the YouTubers. The AHP might be the same.</div><div><br></div><div>SO</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Dennis Johnson <<a href="mailto:moscowengnr@outlook.com">moscowengnr@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I have a nice DC Thermal Arc Fabricator 211 in my shop that does great. It can mig, stick, or tig.
<div>I carry a small import brief case size inverter welder that is DC in pickup box. That is an amazing little welder I use when I am out and about at my cabin, at a logistics hub I manage, or other places that need a small weld repair. I do not carry stuff
to MIG with me, but machine is capable of doing that.</div>
<div>I got it on internet, and do not even recall the brand (maybe evergreen).
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<div>and I'm really happy with it. It does DC and AC TIG and stick. You won't find another Tig that can do aluminum </div>
<div>anywhere near this price range. And the duty cycle is like 60% at the full 200 amps.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Again I inquire, how old is old? Is my late '70's ish tombstone old enough? (I'd take a grand for it in a heartbeat and put it towards a modern TIG/stick unit)
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<div>At a Farm sale about 3 months ago, an old 225 AC/DC Lincoln went for $1200, the leads were about to fall apart. It looked like it had a rod holder from 1945!!<br clear="none">
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late '70's to early 80's. Externally it doesn't seem much different from modern ones and I greatly doubt mine is old enough to be worth anything. Curious though.
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<div>I always wanted an old Lincoln "tombstone"225 AC/DC welder. They sell at auction for over $1000. An old local farmer had an estate auction and I was at the back of the crowd when his Lincoln Tombstone welder came up for auction. I got it for $400,
but after I got it home is was a tombstone, but it was AC only..... I finally got the chance to buy one on Craigs list for $600. Then a year later I bought 4 that had been rebuilt for a VO-Tech out west for $450 for the lot!!! I first welded with one of
them during college at OSU. I fell in love with the welder. Those welders have an open arc voltage of about 90V. They will make you jump when welding on wet stuff... However, they run 7018 LH as pretty as you could ever want. I have mounted one on a
15KW generator for a portable welder. It works great and I have plenty of power to run grinders etc.
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<div><span style="color:windowtext">I purchased my used Lincoln 225 AMP arc welder for $100 at a swap meet. It is quite old. I haven’t taken the time to try to figure out how old but I wanted to buy an older one after looking
at new ones. I looked at the guts of a new one vs how the old ones were built and decided an old one would last longer and probably weld better. I’ve had it 10 years and it is ready to go every time I need it. IMHO, sometimes new isn’t always better.
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<div style="margin-bottom:12pt">I've also seen people bid way too high, they get caught up in the excitement. I was standing next to a guy who was bidding on an old tombstone welder. I wanted it too. I think he ended up paying
$300 for it. You could buy a new one for less than that. It's pays to know what things cost before bidding on them. I was bidding, but dropped out at $150, because that is all I was willing to pay.<br clear="none">
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<div>We have all seen it: the tractor the seller is asking way too much for. Or conversely; why buyers don’t show up for our obviously wonderful tractor that we post in EBay/Craigslist/whatever.</div>
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<div>So listening to podcasts tonight, I ran across a podcast that was discussing many things, including a discussion with a psychologist from Berkeley who was explaining the “endowment effect”. I was unaware of this. Though I
had intuited it many times I did not know it was a “thing”.</div>
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<div>Long story short it explains why people often seem to ask way more for a tractor that I’m willing to pay.</div>
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<div>Interestingly, this is true regardless of how long they owned it or whether it had any other type (e.g. nostalgia) of value. </div>
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<div>Unfortunately, the podcast did not describe how I, the buyer, could negotiate my way around this.</div>
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<div>PS: I will be that seller if I ever sell the Pacer. (-;</div>
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