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    <p>At a Farm sale about 3 months ago, an old 225 AC/DC Lincoln went
      for  $1200, the leads were about to fall apart.  It looked like it
      had a rod holder from 1945!!<br>
      Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/23/2019 6:30 AM, Stephen Offiler
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      <div dir="ltr">Hold on, you say old LIncoln tombstones go for a
        grand?  How old do they have to be?  I've got a 225 AC/DC that I
        picked up at an auction for $50, had to be 20 years ago, and it
        was certainly not new then.  As a wild guess I'd say it must be
        late '70's to early 80's.  Externally it doesn't seem much
        different from modern ones and I greatly doubt mine is old
        enough to be worth anything.  Curious though.
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 6:22
          PM Cecil Bearden <<a href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p>I always wanted an old Lincoln "tombstone"225 AC/DC
              welder.  They sell at auction for over $1000.    An old
              local farmer had an estate auction and I was at the back
              of the crowd when his Lincoln Tombstone welder came up for
              auction.  I got it for $400, but after I got it home is
              was a tombstone, but it was AC only.....  I finally got
              the chance to buy one on Craigs list for $600.  Then a
              year later I bought 4 that had been rebuilt for a VO-Tech
              out west for $450 for the lot!!!   I first welded with one
              of them during college at OSU.  I fell in love with the
              welder.   Those welders have an open arc voltage of about
              90V.  They will make you jump when welding on wet
              stuff...  However, they run 7018 LH as pretty as you could
              ever want.  I have mounted one on a 15KW generator for a
              portable welder.  It works great and I have plenty of
              power to run grinders etc. <br>
              Cecil<br>
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            <div>On 12/22/2019 2:59 PM, <a href="mailto:deanvp@att.net"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a>
              wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I
                    purchased my used Lincoln 225 AMP arc welder for
                    $100 at a swap meet. It is quite old. I haven’t
                    taken the time to try to figure out how old but I
                    wanted to buy an older one after looking at new
                    ones. I looked at the guts of a new one vs how the
                    old ones were built and decided an old one would
                    last longer and probably weld better.  I’ve had it
                    10 years and it is ready to go every time I need
                    it.  IMHO, sometimes new isn’t always better. </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dean
                      VP</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Snohomish,
                      WA 98290</span></p>
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                          style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                        style="color:windowtext"> AT <a
                          href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a>
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike M<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2019 9:38 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Antique tractors that
                        are too expensive</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">I've
                  also seen people bid way too high, they get caught up
                  in the excitement. I was standing next to a guy who
                  was bidding on an old tombstone welder. I wanted it
                  too. I think he ended up paying $300 for it. You could
                  buy a new one for less than that. It's pays to know
                  what things cost before bidding on them. I was
                  bidding, but dropped out at $150, because that is all
                  I was willing to pay.<br>
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                  Mike M<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 12/22/2019 12:13 AM, Spencer
                    Yost wrote:</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">We have all seen it:  the
                        tractor the seller is asking way too much for. 
                        Or conversely; why buyers don’t show up for our
                        obviously wonderful tractor that we post in
                        EBay/Craigslist/whatever.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">So listening to podcasts
                        tonight, I ran across a podcast that was
                        discussing many things, including a discussion
                        with a psychologist from Berkeley who was
                        explaining the “endowment effect”. I was unaware
                        of this. Though I had intuited it many times I
                        did not know it was a “thing”.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Long story short it explains
                        why people often seem to ask way more for a
                        tractor that I’m willing to pay.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                          href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect</a></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+</a></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Interestingly, this is true
                        regardless of how long they owned it or whether
                        it had any other type (e.g. nostalgia) of
                        value. </p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, the podcast
                        did not describe how I, the buyer, could
                        negotiate my way around this.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">PS:   I will be that seller
                        if I ever sell the Pacer. (-;</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Spencer</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p>
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