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Good tillable land around here that's already cleared is about $7500
per acre around here.<br>
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Mike M<br>
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<div dir="auto">What does good tillable land cost per acre in
other parts of the country? My good friend here grew up on 6
section farm near Hastings, Nebraska. His father encouraged all
the siblings to move out as the margins kept shrinking. He said
you have to get very big nowadays and now with the costs , this
now makes sense. They had a mixed operation of cattle, corn and
soybeans. BTW, he can spot an antique tractor and identify it
before I can see it. He spent a lot of time on a Farmall H and
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<div dir="ltr">Jim, that figure of $200 per acre is an annual rent
to farm it, not to purchase it.
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<div dir="auto">I would love to see $200/acre prices here. A
8 acre lot behind us with maybe a 1/2 acre buildable, the
untouchable wet lands sold for$150,000! It was bought by a
builder who is putting a giant 4000 sqft spec house on it.
Our property taxes will be going up again. So far,we are
up 25% in 9 years. This affecting a lot of fixed income
retirees. My wife volunteers at the senior center in town
and some are packing up and moving out. One of her former
volunteers moved to western Virginia, bought a nice home
with barns and out buildings on 10 acres and pays$700/
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<p>Just my $0.02, but this housing bubble is going to burst
and soon ( relative word ). I am going to be like my old
Daddy and hold on tight to my money... <br>
Cecil<br>
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<div>Actually about $200 an acre is pretty much the
standard here in Central Indiana right now for good
tillable land (corn / soybean ground).</div>
<div>Here is a part of an article from a local digital
local newspaper about a week ago, describing some
county owned property about a mile south west of me:</div>
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valign="top"> Shelby County farm
ground that is once again up for lease
has a long and storied history. Shelby
County Commissioners will hold open
bidding for a two-year lease on two
tracts of ground a week from today.
One tract is 196.8 acres of tillable
land, located at Shelby Manor in
Shelby Township. The second tract is
230.9 acres of tillable land at the
Tindall Farm, also in Shelby Township.<br>
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I should see the results very soon. It
typically runs high rent. I don't
follow it closely but the last one I
read about a year or two ago was $278
an acre per year. It "might" be lower
this time since some guys are running
pretty tight right now and a number of
progressive farmers that often skated
quite close to the edge fell over that
edge...<br>
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A tiny place just at the north of our
farm that had belonged to the late
mother of a 1960 classmate just sold
in the last 30 days. As in many such
homes she had been unable to keep up
with repairs for quite a few years and
it was not much of a house to start
with. It had about 9 acres, with maybe
1 acre tillable if you cut some brush
and little of it is flat. It could be
made suitable for a few horses etc. It
has an older smallish pole barn and an
old fair sized chicken house.<br>
Some real estate guy bought it to
flip... They painted the pole barn and
chicken house and cleared a little
brush. They had to take down the 1 car
attached garage because it was sitting
on the septic tank. They put up a
detached 2.5 car garage near one
corner of the house and did a
"remodel" of the house including an
unimpressive porch on the front, a new
metal roof and new siding. Diana and I
stopped and looked in a few windows
one day after the for sale sign went
up. It looked nice but without a
quality house of size to start with it
was kind of an odd layout. Don't get
me wrong, I would live in it but it
was not a Chip and Joanna Gaines
project. 😀 It looks "nice" from the
road with "nice" being a flexible
word. It still screams, "I am a very
bland, nondescript, small, old house
that has been remodeled very plainly
and still looks like a cheap house".<br>
I guess it did what they wanted...
Listed price was $329,000 and I
understand from my friend that it sold
at about $2,000 over asking...<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 11, 2019
at 11:37 PM Mike M <<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">After further
research through Michigan State University, I need to<br>
revise that figure, down a bit. A lot of the price is
dependent on<br>
whether the field is tiled and that it drains well. A
more realistic<br>
price is around $130 per acre.<br>
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Mike M<br>
<br>
On 12/11/2019 11:19 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:<br>
> Wow!! $200/acre!! That is a lot compared to
Oklahoma. Pasture is<br>
> $10/acre, and farmland $20 to $35/acre.... I am
sitting on 80 acres<br>
> here, right next to me on the West the 80 Sold
for $5K/acre. If I<br>
> sold, I would have to move and then pay the
Guvmint most of it.... It<br>
> took way too long to build those buildings to
start over... However,<br>
> it is getting so crowded that we cannot get any
farm ground to grow<br>
> hay on. Thses City folks move out here and some
have 25 to 40 acres. <br>
> They want it mowed 5 times a year when they rent
it to us for hay!!! <br>
> Then they want it looking like a golf course over
the winter. Nothing<br>
> to catch the blowing snow....<br>
> Cecil<br>
><br>
> On 12/11/2019 10:04 PM, Mike M wrote:<br>
>> Why would anyone do something so stupid? 200
acres would command almost<br>
>> $40,000 per year in rent for your heirs.
You'd really be screwing<br>
>> them over.<br>
>><br>
>> Mike M<br>
>><br>
>> On 12/11/2019 10:46 PM, <a
href="mailto:szabelski@wildblue.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">szabelski@wildblue.net</a>
wrote:<br>
>>> In our township they passed an ordnance
that requires you to have a<br>
>>> minimum of 10 acres in order to build,
unless the property was<br>
>>> smaller than that prior to the passing of
the ordnance. If it was,<br>
>>> you can build on it. This was done to
keep developers from coming in<br>
>>> and cramming 20 Houses on a 10 acre
parcel.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In addition, here in Michigan, the local
power utility has (had???)<br>
>>> a program to slow down urban sprawl and
keep the power consumption<br>
>>> from getting out of hand. If you have a
large parcel of land that<br>
>>> you are not farming, you can put that
land into a land bank with the<br>
>>> utility. They will plant the property
with trees and you agree not<br>
>>> to do any development on the property for
something like the next 50<br>
>>> or 100 years. Your heirs would be legally
bound by this agreement.<br>
>>> Don’t know how taxes are handled. If I
remember right, you need<br>
>>> something like 100 acres to participate.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Can’t say how successful they’ve been
with this to date.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Carl<br>
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>>> From: Mike M <<a
href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">meulenms@gmx.com</a>><br>
>>> To: <a
href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 17:13:25 -0500
(EST)<br>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT stamping press pits<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Farmer,<br>
>>> I live in Michigan, and here, provided
the farm has been in existence<br>
>>> long enough, you can have it declared a
Centennial Farm. What it boils<br>
>>> down to is it can be sold, but must
remain in farming of some sort, and<br>
>>> not made into a subdivision. There are
also tax incentives if I'm not<br>
>>> mistaken.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mike M<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 12/11/2019 5:00 PM, Indiana Robinson
wrote:<br>
>>>> I have done my share of "temporary"
installations that may have been a<br>
>>>> little shaky as is common for old
school farmers but my general plan<br>
>>>> most of my life has been to do things
"code +" or to be more<br>
>>>> technical, "Hell for stout"...  😀<br>
>>>> I do find myself being less concerned
these days about making sure<br>
>>>> that what I do will last 100 years.
I'm still optimistic enough to<br>
>>>> pretend that I still need a 5 year
plan but my old concept of a 20<br>
>>>> year plan doesn't carry a lot of
weight.<br>
>>>> There are several reasons for that.
The first is pretty obvious, one<br>
>>>> of those other reasons is that the
farm I put my blood, sweat and<br>
>>>> tears in since 1951, which was a
couple of miles out in the country is<br>
>>>> now only about a quarter mile across
a creek from a rapidly moving<br>
>>>> city limits... Land around me that I
grew up farming either as rented<br>
>>>> land or as custom work is now
infested with houses... The chances of<br>
>>>> this place falling victim to the
bulldozers just keeps increasing. In<br>
>>>> recent years the words "eminent
domain" are getting tossed around more<br>
>>>> and more freely. (shrug)...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> .<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:40 AM
Stephen Offiler <<a
href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a
href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">soffiler@gmail.com</a>>>
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>>>><br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Service pits are just pits.Â
Stamping press pits support very<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â large, very heavy equipment that
creates high shock and vibration<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â in service, enough to literally
shake the ground, hence the<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â recommendation for a soil study.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â SO<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:17 AM
Aaron Dickinson<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â <<a
href="mailto:a_dickinson@att.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">a_dickinson@att.net</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:a_dickinson@att.net"
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>>>><br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I supect most service pits
are shallow enough to not<br>
>>>> require a<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â geotechnical report, however
any building project’s<br>
>>>> foundation<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â design (including service
pits) is based on soil bearing<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â capacity (at residential
level often done by visiual or<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â typical for area). When it
doubt build for the lesser<br>
>>>> bearing.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *From:* James Peck
<mailto:<a href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>         *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎,
‎December‎ ‎11‎, ‎2019 ‎12‎:‎36‎ ‎AM<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *To:* Antique Tractor Email
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>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <mailto:<a
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>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I believe Cecil mentioned he
was involved with things<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â geotechnical. This talks
about having a geotechnical report<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â before designing a stamping
press pit.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a
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>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I wonder if such a report is
used in designing tractor<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â dealership service shops.<br>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
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